cold mountain

4y

u gotta understand that foreign leaders lie abt this s*** all the f***ing time. US goes on a "X country did Y bad thing" kick for a couple years, and to seize the clout, the accused country "owns up to it". Look at Gaddafi if u don't believe me. And a lot of the time, the accusations are false and the leaders who claim responsibility are lying their ass off. Not to mention that Russian leaders are practically always strategically lying, even when they're not dealing with the US.

Did Russia influence the 2018 election? probably. But a Russian official speaking on it is not the "case closed" type of evidence u seem to think it is.

Young D

4y

Going to be interesting to see how the Dems will shift things after this beat down

They need to find a way to disassociate themselves with the woke Twitter Cancel Culture stuff that the voting population is associating them with. It’s not appealing to pretty much every mainstream voting block, and very repelling.

Also get focused on plain economic focused messaging like Bernie has been talking about in his Op Eds.

K DOG 99

4y

This was the 2016 election

cold mountain

4y

russia's got interest in the geopolitics of the whole world. Maybe it's because of their past as a former major world power, but Russia's uniquely concerned with other countries' politics. They run the troll farms and social media bots in order to influence US political culture, no question about it. Are they successful though? I mean there's literally no way to meaningfully measure their influence. Personally, I believe it's minimal, almost negligible, but they've def been on it since 2016, maybe even before then.

K DOG 99

4y

I'm just saying you said 2018 election in your post but the tweet specifically was talking about 2016

cold mountain

4y

u gotta understand that foreign leaders lie abt this s*** all the f***ing time. US goes on a "X country did Y bad thing" kick for a couple years, and to seize the clout, the accused country "owns up to it". Look at Gaddafi if u don't believe me. And a lot of the time, the accusations are false and the leaders who claim responsibility are lying their ass off. Not to mention that Russian leaders are practically always strategically lying, even when they're not dealing with the US.

Did Russia influence the 2018 election? probably. But a Russian official speaking on it is not the "case closed" type of evidence u seem to think it is.

Plankton

4y

It’s been proven, don’t need “case closed evidence”

cold mountain

4y

yea like I said Russia definitely did that s*** but some Russian official saying "yea we f***ed around w the US election" is nothing to go "oop" at. Like they'd probably say that regardless of if they actually did anything.

But to twitter-brained individuals, the words of russian officials hold a lot of weight (as long as they support the democrat ideology).

cold mountain

4y

Lol this could get interesting

Sonic Winter

4y

Florida can be called already

MrMudManMood

4y

Who is kevin mccarthy?

st jpeg

4y

distancing themselves wont help anything bc the right will paint them however they want to and the dems seem to roll over when it comes to messaging. the fact that anything resembling care for social injustice is deemed "woke" pejoratively is a representation of that

the dem party isnt even that left and yet the "lesson" they learn every time they drop the ball around election time is "we went too progressive". like they dropped nearly all police fund reallocation initiatives as soon as Biden took office but the GOP still says that's the dems are trying to fire all cops and their states are full of crime. here in tx, every GOP ad was about funding the police and border patrol because Biden and the dems were slashing the budgets

the problem with dems is they try to appease the right more than they do the people that actually vote for them

gabapentin

4y

i mean do you think that the republicans saying something that is a lie in an advertisement convinces as many people as when they say something that is true

This is Bow

4y

Republicans already calling this rigged and saying "they're cheating" when the majority of those in charge of elections in that County are republican lol