NeonNigga23

4y

shes barely 18 man, i hope u dont mean that in a bad way

NeonNigga23

4y

shes barely 18 man, i hope u dont mean that in a bad way

NeonNigga23

4y

shes barely 18 man, i hope u dont mean that in a bad way

Goo

4y

didn't mean anything sexual

RIP CODEINE

4y

fasho

vagabonds

4y

she isn't a plant but the label doing its job

Nozuka

4y

It’s one thing to not like her music, which is fine, to each their own. It’s another thing to construct a series of conspiracies so you don’t have to believe a teenage girl can make music. The amount of vitriol being thrown at a teenage girl by grown ass men is frankly insane, especially considering the amount of false information being spread about a completely harmless pop artist.

Let’s break down some of the crazier things tons of people on Reddit are saying...

‘Her parents are heavily connected in the industry and she’s only famous because they’re famous.’

Oh really, who are her parents? Are they house hold names? Wait, no, they’re low level actors with a few bit parts to their name and one low budget movie they made together. The biggest role either of her parents have gotten is voice acting on Mass Effect 2. They’re not record producers, they’re not famous musicians, they’re not elite media types. They’re unknown artists who probably have less clout in the industry than a small town radio DJ. You’re telling me they had enough power to make her music career go off, but not enough to make their own careers go off?

‘Her music and image are formed by her label, she’s made by a committee.’
She co-writes and makes all her music with her brother in his small room in their parents modest, middle class house. Need proof? Here you go. They’re weren’t uber wealthy before her career took off, and they’re not controlled by their label. If anything, they’re more intimate and more authentic than 99% of musicians out there. How many musicians do you know that don’t record in a studio, but in a small bedroom? That’s more DIY than the majority of indie bands. She also has strong creative control over her videos, and even directed one of them. And if the studio is dictating her fashion and style, why does she wear gigantic clothes and chunky sneakers (the same clothes she wore before she was famous)? She very specially avoids sexualizing herself like all female pop artists do (which is also fine).

If your only real argument for her being an industry plant is that her label has promoted the s*** out of her through interviews and music videos, duh genius, that’s what record labels do. That’s their job. Having the full support of her label doesn’t make her a ‘plant.’ They’ve done this with every major artist in history. By this logic The Beatles, The Clash, and Queen are ‘industry plants.’
The irony of people singling in on an artist who co-creates all of her music with her own brother (with no other writers and producers), does it by themselves in a small bedroom, and calling her ‘inauthentic’ is astounding. For years Redditors complained about pop stars with 50 songwriters contributing to each song, and finally a pop star comes along who writes all her music with her brother, and they throw a fit.

What it comes down to is grown men believing a teenage girl is incapable of making authentic music and must be the product of famous parents and a record industry creating her out of thin air. It’s sad, and frankly sexist at this point. When Arctic Monkeys blew up as teenagers and were heavily promoted by their label, no one claimed they were ‘inauthentic’ and an ‘industry plant.’

Dislike her music all you want, just don’t parrot lies and half truths because you can’t believe a teenage girl can create hit music.

EDIT: well this blew up. To everyone saying you don’t like her music, once again, that’s fine. That’s not the point I was making. To everyone saying I’m an industry plant as well, I wish.

shane

4y

Extremely fast unorganic growth of an artist carried by a label / group, usually propped up by a major influential label/group that has the foundation to make somebody famous if they need to or want to because they see a financial benefit out of it despite skill or talent

GIO GIO

4y

literally called a label doing it's job this is why people sign deals cause for pop stars it actually works (sometimes)

RIP CODEINE

4y

basically olivia rodrigo

Nozuka

4y

It’s one thing to not like her music, which is fine, to each their own. It’s another thing to construct a series of conspiracies so you don’t have to believe a teenage girl can make music. The amount of vitriol being thrown at a teenage girl by grown ass men is frankly insane, especially considering the amount of false information being spread about a completely harmless pop artist.

Let’s break down some of the crazier things tons of people on Reddit are saying...

‘Her parents are heavily connected in the industry and she’s only famous because they’re famous.’

Oh really, who are her parents? Are they house hold names? Wait, no, they’re low level actors with a few bit parts to their name and one low budget movie they made together. The biggest role either of her parents have gotten is voice acting on Mass Effect 2. They’re not record producers, they’re not famous musicians, they’re not elite media types. They’re unknown artists who probably have less clout in the industry than a small town radio DJ. You’re telling me they had enough power to make her music career go off, but not enough to make their own careers go off?

‘Her music and image are formed by her label, she’s made by a committee.’
She co-writes and makes all her music with her brother in his small room in their parents modest, middle class house. Need proof? Here you go. They’re weren’t uber wealthy before her career took off, and they’re not controlled by their label. If anything, they’re more intimate and more authentic than 99% of musicians out there. How many musicians do you know that don’t record in a studio, but in a small bedroom? That’s more DIY than the majority of indie bands. She also has strong creative control over her videos, and even directed one of them. And if the studio is dictating her fashion and style, why does she wear gigantic clothes and chunky sneakers (the same clothes she wore before she was famous)? She very specially avoids sexualizing herself like all female pop artists do (which is also fine).

If your only real argument for her being an industry plant is that her label has promoted the s*** out of her through interviews and music videos, duh genius, that’s what record labels do. That’s their job. Having the full support of her label doesn’t make her a ‘plant.’ They’ve done this with every major artist in history. By this logic The Beatles, The Clash, and Queen are ‘industry plants.’
The irony of people singling in on an artist who co-creates all of her music with her own brother (with no other writers and producers), does it by themselves in a small bedroom, and calling her ‘inauthentic’ is astounding. For years Redditors complained about pop stars with 50 songwriters contributing to each song, and finally a pop star comes along who writes all her music with her brother, and they throw a fit.

What it comes down to is grown men believing a teenage girl is incapable of making authentic music and must be the product of famous parents and a record industry creating her out of thin air. It’s sad, and frankly sexist at this point. When Arctic Monkeys blew up as teenagers and were heavily promoted by their label, no one claimed they were ‘inauthentic’ and an ‘industry plant.’

Dislike her music all you want, just don’t parrot lies and half truths because you can’t believe a teenage girl can create hit music.

EDIT: well this blew up. To everyone saying you don’t like her music, once again, that’s fine. That’s not the point I was making. To everyone saying I’m an industry plant as well, I wish.

paradise valley

4y

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She's a Disney star just like Miley, Demi, Selena and Hilary Duff were.

shane

4y

She seems to have a specific demographic on lock and she was already famous before, so it's a bit harder to just say yeah she's a plant