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  • Jun 7, 2021
    RESIGNED

    Who the hell is Hillary duff

    Lizzie Maguire? Never heard of it?

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    RESIGNED

    Who the hell is Hillary duff

    You can google her

  • Jun 7, 2021
    RIP CODEINE

    she had a mediocre disney show called bizardvark which had jake paul on the casting, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU PULL OUT 100K SELLS IN A WEEK WITH THAT S***

    she was also in the high school musical disney+ show which was extremely successful

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    if y'all think olivia rodrigo is a plant then y'all don't know what an industry plant is lmfao

    billie eilish is an example of a plant

  • le epic poster xD

    You can google her

    i actually saw her at a parade

    shoutout agent cody banks

  • RESIGNED

    Who the hell is Hillary duff

  • Jun 7, 2021
    RIP CODEINE

    she had a mediocre disney show called bizardvark which had jake paul on the casting, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU PULL OUT 100K SELLS IN A WEEK WITH THAT S***

    We forgetting how much people watch Disney channel?

    Especially now with the people being able to follow and interact with those child actors on social media and actually FOLLOW them around?

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    RIP CODEINE

    she had a mediocre disney show called bizardvark which had jake paul on the casting, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU PULL OUT 100K SELLS IN A WEEK WITH THAT S***

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    She started on Disney Channel, then got on the High School Musical Disney Plus show.

    A song from that show that she wrote and performed blew up on TikTok. That song was distributed by Hollywood Records.

    Then she released Driver’s License on Interscope/Geffen which also blew up on TikTok and ultimately blew up everywhere. Goes on from there.

    To be a plant she had to virtually have no platform among any demographic to begin with.

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    O-Rod is here to stay @op

  • Jun 7, 2021
    Timbs

    O-Rod is here to stay @op

    I give her 2 months

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    RESIGNED

    Who the hell is Hillary duff

    this is ban worthy

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    shane

    Extremely fast unorganic growth of an artist carried by a label / group, usually propped up by a major influential label/group that has the foundation to make somebody famous if they need to or want to because they see a financial benefit out of it despite skill or talent

    no, a plant is an artist that claims that they are independent when in reality, they are signed. olivia signed to interscope in 2020. all that has happened is that the label pushed her like crazy. atm, there is no evidence of the label "propping her up" or incubating her like with 6lack, billie eilish and jorja smith. she's not a plant, she just got crazy push from her label

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    Do you guys genuinely care about “plants” (which has been b******ized like a deceased child born out of wedlock) and how they have unfair advantages above struggling artists, or are you just envious? Cause I can’t see how y’all could really give af besides wanting to be angry

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    That thread just ended perfectly

  • not a plant, definitely from the industry tho

  • BRAVE

    Do you guys genuinely care about “plants” (which has been b******ized like a deceased child born out of wedlock) and how they have unfair advantages above struggling artists, or are you just envious? Cause I can’t see how y’all could really give af besides wanting to be angry

    you just pop out of left field with high quality takes

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    NeonNigga23

    no, a plant is an artist that claims that they are independent when in reality, they are signed. olivia signed to interscope in 2020. all that has happened is that the label pushed her like crazy. atm, there is no evidence of the label "propping her up" or incubating her like with 6lack, billie eilish and jorja smith. she's not a plant, she just got crazy push from her label

    I mean, I don't think she's a plant

    But I also don't think someone can only be a plant when they claim they are independent

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    vagabonds

    if y'all think olivia rodrigo is a plant then y'all don't know what an industry plant is lmfao

    billie eilish is an example of a plant

    tbf, billie isn't a plant by definition but she was incubated by an apple owned company before getting signed. thats y there was alot of apple promo with billie. its like ur a startup company (the artist + the incubator) and u sell the company to a conglomerate (the label)

  • Jun 7, 2021
    Nozuka

    It’s one thing to not like her music, which is fine, to each their own. It’s another thing to construct a series of conspiracies so you don’t have to believe a teenage girl can make music. The amount of vitriol being thrown at a teenage girl by grown ass men is frankly insane, especially considering the amount of false information being spread about a completely harmless pop artist.

    Let’s break down some of the crazier things tons of people on Reddit are saying...

    ‘Her parents are heavily connected in the industry and she’s only famous because they’re famous.’

    Oh really, who are her parents? Are they house hold names? Wait, no, they’re low level actors with a few bit parts to their name and one low budget movie they made together. The biggest role either of her parents have gotten is voice acting on Mass Effect 2. They’re not record producers, they’re not famous musicians, they’re not elite media types. They’re unknown artists who probably have less clout in the industry than a small town radio DJ. You’re telling me they had enough power to make her music career go off, but not enough to make their own careers go off?

    ‘Her music and image are formed by her label, she’s made by a committee.’
    She co-writes and makes all her music with her brother in his small room in their parents modest, middle class house. Need proof? Here you go. They’re weren’t uber wealthy before her career took off, and they’re not controlled by their label. If anything, they’re more intimate and more authentic than 99% of musicians out there. How many musicians do you know that don’t record in a studio, but in a small bedroom? That’s more DIY than the majority of indie bands. She also has strong creative control over her videos, and even directed one of them. And if the studio is dictating her fashion and style, why does she wear gigantic clothes and chunky sneakers (the same clothes she wore before she was famous)? She very specially avoids sexualizing herself like all female pop artists do (which is also fine).

    If your only real argument for her being an industry plant is that her label has promoted the s*** out of her through interviews and music videos, duh genius, that’s what record labels do. That’s their job. Having the full support of her label doesn’t make her a ‘plant.’ They’ve done this with every major artist in history. By this logic The Beatles, The Clash, and Queen are ‘industry plants.’
    The irony of people singling in on an artist who co-creates all of her music with her own brother (with no other writers and producers), does it by themselves in a small bedroom, and calling her ‘inauthentic’ is astounding. For years Redditors complained about pop stars with 50 songwriters contributing to each song, and finally a pop star comes along who writes all her music with her brother, and they throw a fit.

    What it comes down to is grown men believing a teenage girl is incapable of making authentic music and must be the product of famous parents and a record industry creating her out of thin air. It’s sad, and frankly sexist at this point. When Arctic Monkeys blew up as teenagers and were heavily promoted by their label, no one claimed they were ‘inauthentic’ and an ‘industry plant.’

    Dislike her music all you want, just don’t parrot lies and half truths because you can’t believe a teenage girl can create hit music.

    EDIT: well this blew up. To everyone saying you don’t like her music, once again, that’s fine. That’s not the point I was making. To everyone saying I’m an industry plant as well, I wish.

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  • Jun 7, 2021

    bruh she was already a star before this music s*** it’s like calling Selena Gomez or Miley Cyrus a plant

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    paradise valley

    She's a Disney star just like Miley, Demi, Selena and Hilary Duff were.

    You really comparing her to them?

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    RICKY 2320

    You really comparing her to them?

    she bigger than all of them

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