Lol probably cause it’s nuance to it but basically I agree she not as big, but I’m just saying the public doesn’t understand the difference between the streaming s*** so a lot of history is going to get rewritten, so it’s hard to say really.

All them drake records was BS already tbh but we live in a world where they’re accepted so idk what the truth is anymore

Also, be a man. Mfs sexist

yeah The Beatles had a lot of funky s*** in their catalog tbh now that i think about it

sped up version, slowed + reverb version, taylors version, english version, instrumental

They also got a lot of major respect from it in spite of starting out as essentially a boy band. They’re Unc Robert Pattinson now that I think about it

She’s not a better artist than either so what does it matter

Make some truly iconic songs that are also enjoyed by men that aren't gay.

I get it but it’s hard to say that for Taylor, who benefitted so much from being “wholesome miss white america”, and her whole deal is appealing to women and not men. Do you think that’s men not wanting to listen to her cause she’s a woman or the music just isn’t geared for most men?

She not privileged enough that she needs that male stimulus to really take it over the top lol? Idk seems like being a white woman perpetual victim in this era worked out pretty well

If she was a man, she wouldn’t have the same intensely dedicated female fanbase she has

you’re calling Robert pattinson the beatles of flim?!

now that i think about it it kinda makes sense

MJ did those numbers by having the entire population loving his music
Taylor is doing it by having a - very - large fanbase who just spam buys her singles and albums multiple times

She is not and will never be as big as MJ.

as far as passing the beatles? nothing

as far as passing MJ? be an entertainer

Not make the most basic, phoned in music imaginable

Her re-releasing every single one of her albums will be laughed at in about 10-15 years too

Nah it won’t because she played the narrative perfect. She made the labels and execs the bad guy so no one will s*** on that because they want to seem pro artist

She is an absolute demon. Christ.

the music she makes will never come close to the influence MJ and the Beatles had on their respective genres

no one is gonna say they became a musician because of Taylor Swift

Nothing! She isn’t better in any way

Wrong Olivia Rodrigo

Asking the wrong demographic

her audience definitely isn’t almost completely white

be born 50 years earlier

no one will ever be 'bigger' than the Beatles or MJ because the internet, camera phones, and the 24 hour news cycle broke the 4th wall and allowed us to see these artists as people in real time.

The Beatles, Elvis, Mike, etc had this aura and godliness about them and we never really saw them any other way, that doesn't exist anymore.

Make better music.

These aren't the kind of conversations to have "on paper"