Scorpion and views can have the argument made that the singles outweigh the garbage due to charts and general popularity, and pop culture effects
I despise views (2/10) and scorpion is super meh (4/10) but the argument can be made
I also only see tlop comparisons with views due to rollout / hype and maybe the singles run. Not scorpion
Its all subjective at the end of the day and you could say the same for Astroworld but
When we talking impact, the songs off those albums shaped ppl’s summers. Im not saying they’re classic im just going off his criteria for “mainstream classic” or whatever
How do you gage impact ?
Bc if you putting TLOP on there then you got VIEWS too or even Scorpion
I dont name Scorpion and Views because they were f***ing trash, TLOP and Astroworld were good albums and people still remember them fondly
Its all subjective at the end of the day and you could say the same for Astroworld but
When we talking impact, the songs off those albums shaped ppl’s summers. Im not saying they’re classic im just going off his criteria for “mainstream classic” or whatever
I don't even like astro that much but it's gotta be considered a classic in the general public.... S*** was massive. So massive Travis has a McDonald's meal lol
i like Ye here but even a lot ye stans dislike the record
JIK is trash tho
for me it's the total opposite. Ye is mid to me and I like it. JIK is better imo
I don't even like astro that much but it's gotta be considered a classic in the general public.... S*** was massive. So massive Travis has a McDonald's meal lol
Its a classic bc he got a mcdonalds deal this what we doing doing now ?
Its a classic bc he got a mcdonalds deal this what we doing doing now ?
Bro come on stop moving the goal post lmao
Cultural / mainstream classic because it was so popular / successful he netted the first McDonald's promo in what 10-20 years?
Hate the memes and annoying s*** surrounding astroworld (and mid music) all ya want but that s*** is massive.
Edit plus you know the people who love it will immidietly put their children onto it as time passes
I dont name Scorpion and Views because they were f***ing trash, TLOP and Astroworld were good albums and people still remember them fondly
Again how do you gage impact ? Theres a viral tweet about 2016 Views every week. Im going off your logic
Its all subjective at the end of the day and you could say the same for Astroworld but
When we talking impact, the songs off those albums shaped ppl’s summers. Im not saying they’re classic im just going off his criteria for “mainstream classic” or whatever
all art is subjective, but when a big collective of people that know about the subject agrees that something is good then it can be qualified objectively. Albums like MBDTF, Illmatic, The Blueprint, Thriller are undisputed classics. Then you have albums like DAMN, FHD, Astroworld, TLOP that were very big but are more polarizing, many people can take out good things from them but they arent top quality music, that's what I refer with mainstream classics (WTT, Take Care, FHD, TLOP, DAMN and Astroworld],
Again how do you gage impact ? Theres a viral tweet about 2016 Views every week. Im going off your logic
do you consider Views hip hop? also TLOP and Astroworld were much more critically acclaimed than that piece of s*** of an album
Kanye is 1 of the greatest ARTIST of all time. He’s done a lot for the music culture.
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Haterism is a part of the music culture too
do you consider Views hip hop? also TLOP and Astroworld were much more critically acclaimed than that piece of s*** of an album
Your arguments are all over the place, first its all about impact now its critical acclaim.
Well FHD doesnt have as much as any of those BUT you still got it as a classic tho
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If that’s helps your argument for Drake
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He's a loser just like that bobbyji guy
do you consider Views hip hop? also TLOP and Astroworld were much more critically acclaimed than that piece of s*** of an album
He raps on:
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U with me
Hype
Weston Road
Redemption
With you
Faithful
Still here
Grammys
Childs play
Pop style
Views
So yes its hiphop