Never said we shouldn’t do that but furthering the cycle because of “he did it first” isn’t the retort you think it is

Those people are animals, why do we expect them to act better than us, first?

And what do you gain from them being killed, materially? What could your child’s killer being killed possibly give you outside of a disturbing sense of satisfaction? It won’t bring anyone back. It won’t help anyone or anything

Of course but you're not at your most rational when someone you love dies and you can't make law based on how you feel when you're distraught.

Too many innocent ppl have been executed by the state for me to still believe in the death penalty.

The death penalty is based on the justice system and in America its too racist and too unjust to kill someone based on a jury of their peers

stoned to death

Nah, see but we is doing this.

Conservatives are ready and willing to throw these parents under the bus, so they can kick back and do nothing about gun legislation in this country.

Obviously, the parents could’ve done more and pretty much enabled this attack, but there are countless families in America that display the same carelessness for gun safety as they did.

If we don’t address the lack of human empathy displayed by the right and their willingness to appease groups of gun wielding psychopaths, we can count on seeing an endless amount of mass shootings.

Mfs in here like “nooooooooooooooo we can’t do anything about guns because it’s going to hurt conservatives feeeeeelinggggsssssss!!!”

killing is bad unless it's mandated by the state

lol but what if it did help?

you're positioning your point so that such an action is unfathomable, yet you specified "materialistically" so I take it that you obviously understand that something personal & intangible could be indeed be gained by them being killed. Its okay that you're disturbed by their perceived satisfaction in such an action, but to reduce their reasoning and simplify their internalization to what you're capable of, or morally in agreement with, is a total disregard all the possible ways it could help right personal injustice.

The cycle it contributes to is Macro; not personal

on a personal level, its often not about bringing anyone back, but more sending them to some afterlife to be further f***ed up by your ancestors and lost ones; cuz we all got demons and angels on both sides so whichever way its they go it UP forever

nonetheless, whether we agree with it or not, the closure people find in others death is well documented and is one of the reasons they still allow public witnesses at executions.

Well then we shouldn’t be killing criminals to satisfy the personal and internalized desires of their victims. The point of law and legal is not to punish the loser/convicted and reward the winner/victim in some sort of transactional competition, but to find justice in the face of moral wrongdoing and provide a structure to uphold societal guidleines. Creating some sort of hedonist concession to the victim is not ethical in any way. Just because such a phenomenon exists doesn’t mean it should be a validated one

So you like it when shooters go on killing sprees and then kill themselves after ?

they were in Detroit

We're already desensitized to this s***. This was a one off for my local news channel. normally an incident like this would be breaking news and they would cut current programming to broadcast the details

Gun reform wont happen because NRA paying politicians same with stuff like the cost of essential d****. There's always some money involved whenever an obvious issue that needs to be addressed is being ignored.

Only way I see change happening is if there is a school shooting where the children of the politicians being bribed end up being the victims

For sure, once the s***head parents said no and left there was very little recourse left. But they at least could have left him in the principals/counsellors office, potentially even called the police? Anything except for what they actually did

Yea I f***ing agree, the law is ass, we give to too much responsibility to the government to actually govern us, they rightfully provided the illusion of sovereignty and we in turn expect them to have it all figured out when thats just not the case. we're still in a progressive state, our guidelines and laws provide structure and just that. We might live within them, but they do not dictate or sway everyone's decisions.

Which is why at this junction we need to keep firm the threat of knowledge of how a Person getting Killed could consequently result in the Killer being killed as direct punishment; this law and order makes me feel more secure and serves more as a preventive measure than not.

fear of consequences is is why people uphold the law. jail corny af but obviously not as scary as death.

immediately after? nah it pisses me off into a lil tantrum, idealistically we'd tie them up to a totem pole and the whole community gets to slap the s*** outta them, and those deemed to be the most wronged by this purp would be crowned executioner (or they could appoint a stand-in) to deliver the final blow, or show mercy and let them kill themselves like they originally planned.

I have no problem with the death penalty for people who maliciously plan and act on that plan and commit murder.

Things that happen accidentally or in the heat of the moment are different. But if you plan a murder ahead of time and carry it out, I have no problem with the death penalty for those people.

I’m not even talking….. like you have a gun and plan to rob someone and during the robbery you shoot the person and kill them…. That doesn’t even fall under what I’m talking about.

I’m talking about specifically planning to kill someone and doing it. You deserve the death penalty if you do that.

Parents found guilty and sentenced to 10-15 years. Should’ve been life.

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