True, that's why no album restored the feeling (for me) since Views. I still listen to Drake's new s*** but it's not the same.

Also doesn't help that drake drops music too frequently, 40 just don't got time or energy anymore to handle executive producing all the music he drops

Was thinking the same thing

Yes, the vocal samples and reversed samples are much more prominent here than they have been since then

Also more piano and live instruments and general attention to detail which is a part of that original 40 sound

The issue is his execution and lack of ambition.. the house inspires album was incredibly barebone and he did nothing to really flesh out his ideas when it comes to world building.. he could have taken more liberties with production, his Melodies/hooks were forgettable, a bit stale .. you don’t get props for trying something different just for the sake of it.. where’s the true effort.. which is why someone like Bey could drop a similar album ‘thematically’ and due to the execution and her ambition to go deeper that what’s ‘expected’ ppl respond differently.

It's crazy how except for PND, Drake has maybe 5 songs with the other label members in his entire career. They could've easily made this album better.

drakes album tracks with help from majid and dvsn are incredible i feel like he should be more in house with it

HNVM vision with FATD level ambition and production would be crazy tbh

Drake over Keine Musik with some of his best writing since NWTS was all I needed and thats what he delivered. Its a style of deephouse, not everything needs to be overproduced. You’re calling &me & Black Coffee barebone cause you’re unfamiliar with the genre. He wasnt trying to make american dance like beyonce did

Youre calling these types of beats bare bone

People seem to wanna treat HNVM as this incomparable separate island for drake which is why I didn’t include it - FATD seems like it goes into the comparable cannon for drake fans more so - but I’d say similar issues are on that album

Flights booked is a smash for sure. The ‘when last did we feel this close together, chasing sunsets in California’ part is gold

A keeper has the ‘I found a new muse’ parts which are catchy enough, the rest of that song I feel is just pointless melodic panning out and filling out until he can get back to the hook

Liability to me just doesn’t have enough variation. The beat is just 4 minutes of the same thing you’ve heard after the first 30 seconds. The hook is this long drawn out section that vocally, flow wise, pitch wise really has no distinct difference from the verses. No idea what anyone would find catchy or instantaneous about ties that bind

And I feel those issues plague that whole album BUT again people say it’s a different thing, a more club mix dance music style which does have a lot of drawn out passages and space etc so I give it more of a pass

I feel like Drake should've wowed more with HNVM. Imagine if the whole album was catchy like A Keeper. Not the case for me but I like it. I definitely agree it's underrated and shouldn't sound like Beyoncé (the sound Drake chose fits him better).

The main criticism about this album is Drake's singing, I have to agree his singing is not as good anymore.

Opinions and tastes differ man. Hnvm is my fav drake project since nwts. That thing is perfect to me

album was just kinda inconsistent

there are some genuinely amazing songs on there

if it was 10 songs on the level of A keeper I would call it a classic in terms of quality without any hesitation

If Drake treated this more like an era, collabed with EDM artists like Fred Again and Nia Archives. I think maybe it would have more impact. Her Loss was fan service and distracted ppl from it.

It’s strange because FATD has really STRONG elements that doesn’t come together consistently enough in a way that compliments the record IMO.. a lot of use of familiar tropes being regurgitated.. the best switches, reversed samples, monotone melodies etc the positives being some clever wordplay, different flow pockets to keep us from zoning out, beautiful beat selections here and there.. also outside of Cole features left a lot to be desired.. Amen took me to Glory though

Never got this barebone critique. It's just a different style of house music lol

I do wish he had an amapiano track on hnvm tho, since he was already tapped in by that point

‘He shouldve worked with fred again’

Bro thats not what he wanted to make

Yeah its interesting he hasnt done an amapiano track yet considering how much he and oliver listen to it. Olivers last set on ovosr was fantastic

I love all Drake's albums, but HN is his best album since ML. his melodies there are immaculate and blend perfectly with the beats.
on the other hand there's not much, but enough boring or even really bad melodical choices / hooks on the last few albums, especially on her loss

The problem is Yachty said why can’t u write those take care songs anymore? Like make a song up make a story up make s*** up in ur head that’s what artist do right?
Drake said he has a hard time writing about things that aren’t CURRENTLY happening in his life.
So it’s hard for him to hop on a song and just write some s*** up iguess

FACTS! HNVM a classic and will be appreciated years down the line like Yeezus was

Massive is a great song. Him attempting to go deeper into EDM sound would be interesting to me. Plus a lot of the Fred Again songs are lowkey and melodic. I don’t think it’s a crazy idea.

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I feel that

I love the album and it’s so cohesive and perfect in a sense

But also I could see what people mean if they would’ve liked the production to be a little more fleshed out, like this new album is. Drake kind of implied that he was dropping it quick to capture the vibe and feeling, and the timing was great because it was a great summer album

But if he really took his time the way he seemed to with this one, that would’ve been a masterpiece on another level

Disagree on monotone melodies

I feel like drake’s singing was monotone for projects like Views and Scorpion, he was singing in a low range a lot

On this he started being in his higher range and really singing more. These melodies are way better than they have been.

"Drake over Keine Musik with some of his best writing since NWTS was all I needed and thats what he delivered." - Nah.. I listen to Adam and Rampa along with artists like Solomun whom I love and watch his sets religiously at Tomorrowland.

"Its a style of deephouse, not everything needs to be overproduced. You’re calling &me & Black Coffee barebone cause you’re unfamiliar with the genre." - Bro, stop talking to me as if I don't know what I'm talking about lol.. I listen to literally everything under the sun, because I'm not just a consumer.. I can be listening to Destiny's Child in the morning, by lunch time I'm singing baroque arias by opera tenor Lawrence Brownlee, crying to Cory Henry organ shreds in the evening, by midnight I'm racing down the interstate blaring Agoria's You're Not Alone with Blase..don't box me in like that.

"He wasnt trying to make american dance like beyonce did" - Never implied that he was. I wasn't comparing their musical style.. Drake focused on extrapolating one particular subgenre/sound. It's not about being overproduced. Beyonce attempted something a lot more ambitious/ ie. combining multiple subgenres and different time periods (70s/80s/90s) and expanded on the concept of 'dance' music. I'm said that their albums are thematically similar in their approach to 'dance' music.. my point was about his musical ambition/passion and zeal about bringing the MOST out of the potential/resources instead of giving the bare minimum.

"Youre calling these types of beats bare bone" - I'm talking about the beats chosen for HN.. they were average.