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  • Sep 11, 2021
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    coke n whyt btchs

    I think he has nothing left to say

    Big energy on this album, not to say there isn’t great punchlines, but he’s doing that thing where rappers deliver the bar like they’re saying something but it’s really filler
    I’ve never known Drake to do that on a consistent basis

  • Sep 11, 2021
    ryuH

    This what it really come down to man. People feel like they have Drake figured out. They feel like his formula is predictable and he never really does anything that surprises anyone or at least he hasn’t in a long time. Last time I would say he “surprised” people with a new sound/style for an entire project was IYRTITL. After that he expanded his sound on different songs here and there with dancehall, world music drill etc but he never gave us a full body of work with a new sound so his versatility is taken for granted.

    People take that and run with it and equate his recent output as “bad music” or “mid” which is the part I don’t get because I love every song on CLB and even DLDT, Scorp, More Life, and Views are all at least 95% good music when you really go track for track but once people feel like they have you figured out people stop appreciating what you do.

    Great write-up, even if I don’t agree with your opinions on the albums themselves

  • Sep 11, 2021
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    ClanWay

    Drake has essentially went on record to talk about why he doesn’t do that stuff

    Basically called it pretentious and “lets the music do the talking@

    If he said that I definitely don’t agree with it. I don’t think it’s pretentious at all. I just think it’s two different approaches. I fw both. That’s the beauty of hip-hop. Diversity and different forms of creativity. Where he say that?

  • Sep 11, 2021
    ryuH

    If he said that I definitely don’t agree with it. I don’t think it’s pretentious at all. I just think it’s two different approaches. I fw both. That’s the beauty of hip-hop. Diversity and different forms of creativity. Where he say that?

    I forgot but it was during one of his interviews post GKMC when he was talking about skits and s***

    He’s denounced skits and mentioned how he lets the music speak several times, if I’m not mistaken he mentioned it during the Elliot Wilson x NWTS interview as well when the topic of Kendrick came up

  • Sep 11, 2021
    ryuH

    This what it really come down to man. People feel like they have Drake figured out. They feel like his formula is predictable and he never really does anything that surprises anyone or at least he hasn’t in a long time. Last time I would say he “surprised” people with a new sound/style for an entire project was IYRTITL. After that he expanded his sound on different songs here and there with dancehall, world music drill etc but he never gave us a full body of work with a new sound so his versatility is taken for granted.

    People take that and run with it and equate his recent output as “bad music” or “mid” which is the part I don’t get because I love every song on CLB and even DLDT, Scorp, More Life, and Views are all at least 95% good music when you really go track for track but once people feel like they have you figured out people stop appreciating what you do.

    Couldn’t say it any better

  • Sep 11, 2021
    ryuH

    This what it really come down to man. People feel like they have Drake figured out. They feel like his formula is predictable and he never really does anything that surprises anyone or at least he hasn’t in a long time. Last time I would say he “surprised” people with a new sound/style for an entire project was IYRTITL. After that he expanded his sound on different songs here and there with dancehall, world music drill etc but he never gave us a full body of work with a new sound so his versatility is taken for granted.

    People take that and run with it and equate his recent output as “bad music” or “mid” which is the part I don’t get because I love every song on CLB and even DLDT, Scorp, More Life, and Views are all at least 95% good music when you really go track for track but once people feel like they have you figured out people stop appreciating what you do.

    People that say Drake doesn't switch up his sound are really lying to themselves. He always takes on new sounds and when he does he collaborates with the right artists so it doesn't seem like he's just apeing the sound. What has been missing from Drake is it doesn't really feel like he wants to prove he's the best out anymore. I've a fan of Drake for over 10 years now and I still bump some stuff from the Heartbreak Drake unofficial tapes but you can tell he doesn't necessarily wanna prove he's the best anymore. He makes good music but it doesn't feel like he really wants to prove it

  • Sep 11, 2021
    ryuH

    This what it really come down to man. People feel like they have Drake figured out. They feel like his formula is predictable and he never really does anything that surprises anyone or at least he hasn’t in a long time. Last time I would say he “surprised” people with a new sound/style for an entire project was IYRTITL. After that he expanded his sound on different songs here and there with dancehall, world music drill etc but he never gave us a full body of work with a new sound so his versatility is taken for granted.

    People take that and run with it and equate his recent output as “bad music” or “mid” which is the part I don’t get because I love every song on CLB and even DLDT, Scorp, More Life, and Views are all at least 95% good music when you really go track for track but once people feel like they have you figured out people stop appreciating what you do.

  • Sep 11, 2021
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    Vonn

    They want some of that Top of the morning 🤓 sound

    that s*** is ass. Let drake would have said some stupid s*** like this and they would say he sounds dumb.

  • Sep 11, 2021
    master chief

    If by evolve you mean make good music again then yes

  • Sep 11, 2021
    bitch mob

    back to your containment section.

  • Sep 11, 2021

    op getting ethered in the first page, holy s***

  • Sep 12, 2021
    Barrettafello

    Where did it get those niggas?

    bro thought Wale was a good example to choose

  • Sep 12, 2021

    To the people that keep saying the content is boring. Yall forgetting this is MUSIC?? Drake likes to make good music with catchy melodies. Do it sound good to your ears or not. I don't understand what kinda lyrics you want, its not a history paper he's turning in. Music with sounds remember ??

  • Sep 12, 2021

    I just finished the rory mal episode about clb. I think rory's opinion and mal's opinion are like 2 examples of how drake's audience perceived the album, my opinion aligning more with mal's.

    I've come to the conclusion that many of the people who are upset with drake are setting their expectations much much higher for him specifically because of the records he has previously made.

  • Sep 14, 2021
    CLB Day

    that s*** is ass. Let drake would have said some stupid s*** like this and they would say he sounds dumb.

  • Sep 14, 2021
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    ryuH

    Also I feel like Drake is a very modern artist that is a product of the streaming era and I love that about him but his approach is off putting to some. His projects have a very mixtape feel where the tracks never really seem like they are related in any meaningful way. They are basically playlist of the best material he’s recorded recently typically bookended by Lyrical/Introspective freestyles. Artist like Kanye, Kendrick, and even Jay to a certain extent all typically take the old world approach to making albums where all the songs are just pieces of a larger puzzle.

    For example “For Free?” from TPAB isn’t a banger or hit in its own right but a serves the greater purposes of what Kendrick is trying to say on his album. Things like that, all of the Jazz instrumentation, the poem he has being performed through the album, even the a***og recording that was used on all the vocals and instruments really string the album together in a beautiful way and bring the concept to life.

    With Drake albums you never get stuff like that. It’s just dope song, after dope song until it’s over. He doesn’t really seem to want he’s albums to “say anything” thematically as a whole. I don’t have a problem with that but I get why some do. They take that criticism wayyyy to far tho because at the end of the day the music is still good regardless.

    The transitions on More Life are the smoothest I’ve ever heard on a Drake project: once one song ends, it seamlessly bleeds into the next one. I don’t see how you could say the tracks on that project aren’t related in a “meaningful way”

  • Sep 15, 2021
    D Dot

    The transitions on More Life are the smoothest I’ve ever heard on a Drake project: once one song ends, it seamlessly bleeds into the next one. I don’t see how you could say the tracks on that project aren’t related in a “meaningful way”

    That was more of a generalization than a hard fact. More Life definitely had some sweet transitions on the first half but it had some filler down the stretch so doesn’t get the love that it deserves

  • Sep 15, 2021

    People just follow narratives. For Drake it's that his sound does mit evolve.
    With Kanye the narrative is that he is a visionary and his albums are ahead of its time. When I listen to Donda, I don't hear anything crazy or visionary but people just jump on the Kanye-the-visionary-train

  • Sep 15, 2021
    BestInTheWorld

    Big energy on this album, not to say there isn’t great punchlines, but he’s doing that thing where rappers deliver the bar like they’re saying something but it’s really filler
    I’ve never known Drake to do that on a consistent basis

    This is absolutely true. I think that's what has been bothering me about certain songs like When to Say When or Champagne Poetry and why they feel like way worse versions of other similar songs he has done.

    He has a lot less actual clever bars & punchlines and way more filler lines as you said that don't really mean or pertain to anything. He used to have a good balance of them and even if they were filler lines about nothing they used to still be very quotable and witty.