BRAVE

5mo

Hard disagree on Carti but one thing about the rap game:

The feeling that the rap game has taken a nosedive in skill is centered around the prevalence of static rhythms in rap verses. This may sound small at first, but the one thing that separates rap from other genres is dynamic rhythms. Rhythms in sung verses of other genres usually don’t change line to line, so to have a genre that achieves a high level of catchiness while having unpredictable rhythms is a testament to rap’s inherently high literary and compositional skill.

That post-Drake/Nicki/Cole/Future/Sean/Kendrick class of aspiring rappers born in the late 90s took to making verses with purely static rhythms, and this has been their default way of rapping, stemming from melodic rap. If you rap with sung melody, you then take on the sung verse form, which is based on…static rhythms. This influenced the non-melodic rapping from the new generation as well, so now they do regular rapping in the style of melodic rapping which is post-Keef (the guy responsible for this specific influence on Gen Z)

When you take dynamic rhythms away from rap verses, you may not be affecting the artistic legitimacy of the genre, but the literary and compositional distinction of rap in comparison to sung genres is lost. Now rap is just another melodic sung genre with verses like the rest of em cause the words have to adhere to the static melodic form. This leads to less real s*** being said in verses as well. It’s no longer dynamic musical poetry and moreso glorified sports game chants

lil ufo

5mo

I'm 29 and I enjoy his music, f*** bars I ain't stopping to a***yze rhymes and s*** I'm here to enjoy the sounds

Fever

5mo

See that's what makes the take dusty and takes away from the major issues

We had great talent and experimentation up until mid-late 2018 onward

If you dislike the lack of skill regarding traditional 'rapping' you've still got to admit a ton of unique and enjoyable music was still releasing at large, which was why hip hop had such a grip in the mainstream

When SoundCloud died we lost a place for amateurs to try new things with little risk. We just don't have that any more

DAVID P

5mo

Okay that's fine but the art of lyricism is pretty much dead in alot of popular rap music nowadays. I'm not asking for carti or someone to rap an entire dictionary over a rage beat, but they don't even have simple bars which is kind of taking away from the whole aspect of "rap". I'm not complaining about this type of music existing but honestly it should just be branched off into another genre and not be considered "rap", because there's not really even any rapping in much of the music lol

Snowboy

5mo

anyway this hater s*** is corny, this now an appreciation thread

10 years in the game never forget how he used to kill s*** back in the day

DAVID P

5mo

Again... There's no hating... I like Carti's older music. Did you not see the original post?

I even have this song you linked on a few playlists

Snowboy

5mo

maybe my post isn't directed at you bud

lil ufo

5mo

have you heard hood by air my brother in carti

DAVID P

5mo

Sir Cartier> Playboi

Bernie X

5mo

Just saying anything

DAVID P

5mo

It's an opinion. You don't have to agree with it :

DAVID P

5mo

We'll keep in mind the average age of this site is like 27-34 at this point.

Valentine

5mo

Carti has barely dropped in comparison so that’s probably why people still look at his career as young

Mr America

5mo

And also by 2010 Ye was 33

DAVID P

5mo

Oh yeah I am at an agreement with you that there was definitely still good music being released during SoundCloud's era. It's just that a lot of the artists that blew up at that time were pretty s***. I like to think that's when rap in general started to decline. I can't pin it on a specific event, but the era of like Lil Pump, 6ix9ine, Lil Xan, etc was kind of what got us to the s*** nowadays everyone's complaining about.

Valentine

5mo

Age wasn’t really looked at like that back then tho lmfao. You were still a “young dude” in your mid 30s

Bernie X

5mo

That was when he was a middle schooler rapping like Curren$y or some s*** right? Like cmon bro what’s the point of fronting

We already understand ur point u don’t gotta resort to extremes

DAVID P

5mo

Just listened.

He's not really saying much in the lyrics... At all lol