Nov 5, 2023·1 reply
insertcoolnamehereMost them rappers didnt succeed in jacking another rapoer (Uno) style and had to be original just to be called “white hipster music”
Let’s be real , you don’t listen to Uno and you just heard someone say this and are parroting it.
- Nov 5, 2023·1 replyFree YoungBoy
Let’s be real , you don’t listen to Uno and you just heard someone say this and are parroting it.
You should chill with making assumptions about niggas you do not know.
Especially people from Atlanta lmao
Nov 5, 2023·1 reply
onetwothe sound of hip hop* definitely shifted after WLR that’s what groundbreaking means basically
Not necessarily tbh
Influence and innovation/breaking new ground are separate things
WLR had influence for sure
But it’s just another trap variant, it’s not really some mind blowing experimentation or boundary pushing going on lol it’s just Future/Thug music but slightly more abrasive sounding. Lowkey X had already done that part too
- Nov 5, 2023Free YoungBoy
Yeah bro BNYX never heard a jazz album lol. You know more about music than him
Comparing Carti to Jazz shows zero understanding of jazz
Like dude must’ve forgot the political aspects of jazz and the actual meaning and ethos
stick to the surface level punk comparisonBut s***, even the snot nosed punk kids had more to say and more substance behind their direction than Carti.
Nov 5, 2023·3 replies2wordsNot necessarily tbh
Influence and innovation/breaking new ground are separate things
WLR had influence for sure
But it’s just another trap variant, it’s not really some mind blowing experimentation or boundary pushing going on lol it’s just Future/Thug music but slightly more abrasive sounding. Lowkey X had already done that part too
i don’t even know why you bother lmao, these niggas are just delusional
even went over this exact topic in a previous thread where i pointed out SGP already had the VAMP aesthetic and was already making trap with weird delivery on it w/ his vocals
F1THY even said he took influence from SGP, it just doesn’t matter, it has to be new and groundbreaking so they can fully invest into Carti as this enigmatic artist (while s***ting on other artists who actually are full on experimental)
- Nov 5, 2023·2 repliesX7JQ9L2MF4A8Z
i don’t even know why you bother lmao, these niggas are just delusional
even went over this exact topic in a previous thread where i pointed out SGP already had the VAMP aesthetic and was already making trap with weird delivery on it w/ his vocals
F1THY even said he took influence from SGP, it just doesn’t matter, it has to be new and groundbreaking so they can fully invest into Carti as this enigmatic artist (while s***ting on other artists who actually are full on experimental)
You’re so right about that “fully invest” thing, it’s a weird phenomenon, that’s why I think so much of the “buy in” on Carti from some people is based more on presentation than the music
To this day, SGP’s projects from over a decade ago are weirder and more original than Carti’s s***.
Lowkey I don’t think some of the carti fans have heard future’s whole catalog either because most of the s*** Carti has done with his voice, Future or Thug did it at some point
- Nov 5, 2023·1 reply2words
You’re so right about that “fully invest” thing, it’s a weird phenomenon, that’s why I think so much of the “buy in” on Carti from some people is based more on presentation than the music
To this day, SGP’s projects from over a decade ago are weirder and more original than Carti’s s***.
Lowkey I don’t think some of the carti fans have heard future’s whole catalog either because most of the s*** Carti has done with his voice, Future or Thug did it at some point
you could even argue that Wayne was doing some of the s*** Carti was doing on WLR on Rebirth lol
it’s either they don’t know music or they’re just d***riding, tbh it just seems like to me people can’t accept that something can be good (or even influential) without being groundbreaking or experimental
- Nov 5, 2023insertcoolnamehere
I think Carti himself is great.
His influence? Mmmm not so much.
His clones type 🗑️
Pure trash
- Nov 5, 2023X7JQ9L2MF4A8Z
i don’t even know why you bother lmao, these niggas are just delusional
even went over this exact topic in a previous thread where i pointed out SGP already had the VAMP aesthetic and was already making trap with weird delivery on it w/ his vocals
F1THY even said he took influence from SGP, it just doesn’t matter, it has to be new and groundbreaking so they can fully invest into Carti as this enigmatic artist (while s***ting on other artists who actually are full on experimental)
Carti is an SGP stan and many Carti fans f*** with raider klan and black kray type music
- Nov 5, 2023·1 reply!https://youtu.be/LlE-mTEKLfc?si=lLVZFcuURqze1yI0insertcoolnamehere
You should chill with making assumptions about niggas you do not know.
Especially people from Atlanta lmao
Then you should know that in 2020 uno was making futsal shuffle clones and making songs with YBN nahmir and Travis barker. While Carti made WLR
This is Uno s*** after WLR dropped
- Nov 5, 20232words
You’re so right about that “fully invest” thing, it’s a weird phenomenon, that’s why I think so much of the “buy in” on Carti from some people is based more on presentation than the music
To this day, SGP’s projects from over a decade ago are weirder and more original than Carti’s s***.
Lowkey I don’t think some of the carti fans have heard future’s whole catalog either because most of the s*** Carti has done with his voice, Future or Thug did it at some point
If it was based on presentation more than music WLR wouldn’t have been panned upon release
- Nov 5, 2023·2 repliesX7JQ9L2MF4A8Z
you could even argue that Wayne was doing some of the s*** Carti was doing on WLR on Rebirth lol
!https://youtu.be/f6NJI_3iF0o?si=GmS6xc4sJP2j8lDBit’s either they don’t know music or they’re just d***riding, tbh it just seems like to me people can’t accept that something can be good (or even influential) without being groundbreaking or experimental
We could really go on and on with artists who already did this s*** it’s crazy
I think it gives them a feeling of superiority as a listener or something, sometimes I lowkey think it’s just trying to separate Carti as “not like those other rappers” so they can listen to modern bangers while telling themselves it’s super innovative and punk
it’s like having your cake and eating it too. A more “respectable” “artistic” version of Future Thug Keef but also a much “safer” “cooler” pick than Jpegmafia or Danny Brown
I know this isn’t all his fans but there’s definitely a good chunk like this. And most of them don’t know music at all. I’ve seen it first hand, went to school with someone who had WLR and TPAB as the only rap albums they liked
it’s a real thing 
Nov 5, 2023insertcoolnamehereI think Carti himself is great.
His influence? Mmmm not so much.
His clones type 🗑️
100%!
- Nov 5, 2023
Carti is Future and all of his clones are Desiigner I'm afraid
- Nov 5, 20232words
We could really go on and on with artists who already did this s*** it’s crazy
I think it gives them a feeling of superiority as a listener or something, sometimes I lowkey think it’s just trying to separate Carti as “not like those other rappers” so they can listen to modern bangers while telling themselves it’s super innovative and punk
it’s like having your cake and eating it too. A more “respectable” “artistic” version of Future Thug Keef but also a much “safer” “cooler” pick than Jpegmafia or Danny Brown
I know this isn’t all his fans but there’s definitely a good chunk like this. And most of them don’t know music at all. I’ve seen it first hand, went to school with someone who had WLR and TPAB as the only rap albums they liked
it’s a real thing"Not like those other rappers" is very true
- Nov 5, 2023·2 replies2words
We could really go on and on with artists who already did this s*** it’s crazy
I think it gives them a feeling of superiority as a listener or something, sometimes I lowkey think it’s just trying to separate Carti as “not like those other rappers” so they can listen to modern bangers while telling themselves it’s super innovative and punk
it’s like having your cake and eating it too. A more “respectable” “artistic” version of Future Thug Keef but also a much “safer” “cooler” pick than Jpegmafia or Danny Brown
I know this isn’t all his fans but there’s definitely a good chunk like this. And most of them don’t know music at all. I’ve seen it first hand, went to school with someone who had WLR and TPAB as the only rap albums they liked
it’s a real thing”A more “respectable” “artistic” version of Future Thug Keef but also a much “safer” “cooler” pick than Jpegmafia or Danny Brown”
yup! a perfect middle groundhonestly it’s borderline thread worthy but it’d most likely get memed out of the building since he’s a darling on here
it’s pretty upsetting that the only way to escape the “white hipster music” allegations is primarily aesthetic and not deviating too rashly from an established sound, but that’s where we’re at lmao
- Nov 5, 2023·1 replyX7JQ9L2MF4A8Z
”A more “respectable” “artistic” version of Future Thug Keef but also a much “safer” “cooler” pick than Jpegmafia or Danny Brown”
yup! a perfect middle groundhonestly it’s borderline thread worthy but it’d most likely get memed out of the building since he’s a darling on here
it’s pretty upsetting that the only way to escape the “white hipster music” allegations is primarily aesthetic and not deviating too rashly from an established sound, but that’s where we’re at lmao
Those are your guys
jk - Nov 5, 2023Vibe
Those are your guys
jkthey’re my niggas for sure
- Nov 5, 2023·2 replies
You guys can’t cope with people liking an artist you don’t so you come up with all these theories to rationalize why others feel the way they feel about it instead of just admitting it isn’t for you lol
- Nov 5, 2023
Speaking on Carti alot of his clones are really young so they might still develop into great artists
haven't really seen any that are even 24 - 25
It's like when tyler was dropping b****** and s***
Nov 5, 2023·1 replyThis album is gonna be f***ing amazing
Nov 5, 2023PierceAndPierce
This man bout to drop another classic
wtf
- Nov 5, 2023·1 reply!https://youtu.be/BQLZz2WCHJY?si=H0KL5IhbMS-_ch6rPierceAndPierce
He's Ye's best protege
he is not a Ye protege
- Nov 5, 2023X7JQ9L2MF4A8Z
”A more “respectable” “artistic” version of Future Thug Keef but also a much “safer” “cooler” pick than Jpegmafia or Danny Brown”
yup! a perfect middle groundhonestly it’s borderline thread worthy but it’d most likely get memed out of the building since he’s a darling on here
it’s pretty upsetting that the only way to escape the “white hipster music” allegations is primarily aesthetic and not deviating too rashly from an established sound, but that’s where we’re at lmao
I’ll have your back. There’s definitely something worth discussing here. But it is difficult to have these discussions because they’ll just say things like “the music is better” and hide behind subjectivity
It’s something I think about a lot, how perception of an artist effects music opinions
I’m interested to hear what this “chaotic cave music” sounds like because if it still has the same drum patterns then
In before this is more smoke and mirrors to make his music seem deeper than it is and people eat it up
