Shin Chan

5mo

I literally just read this rn holy s*** lmao

Typhlosion a FAN

Water Giver

5mo

all of the hyper-realism art is so interesting

and some of them resemble final pokemon like the probably-beta of cacturne but drawn in this specific artstyle

i wonder what it was for, reminds me of dark fantasy games concept art for animals and local enemies

Water Giver

5mo

like look at this

i wanna know what this style and aesthetic was for so bad

Water Giver

5mo

i see few pages before people are posting art itt so:

apparently, people are saying one of their design exercises they do for creature design in gen 2 and 3 is that they would draw early ideas as full-on "monsters", literally, to see the "true"monstrous features they can get out of a pokemon and then they tone it down while keeping its overall essences - which could explain some pokedex entries more too

apparently they done it with tyranitar before like this early cacturne

look at these guys

The only one i could see being a "real pokemon" toned down, out of the ones i posted, is the yellow-brownish rock monkey/tiger thing & the clam

Smuchador

5mo

the lore bits are the best parts honestly

Ultima

5mo

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Have you read the internal conversations?!? That's the real treasures. We get to see what exactly is going through their heads during the design process.

• Ohmori was scared of death threats
• They actually do listen to feedback and was terrified of dexit but they was far to ahead to start development over.
• Gen V was suppose to have mega evolution and a fusion mechanic that was scrapped because western fans was upset they could catch Gen 1-4 Pokemon during the main story
• Most of the spriting and art for those scrapped Pokemon was done, but Masuda told Sugimori and the rest of the dev team to "get rid of them"
• There was suppose to be way more Pokemon that was suppose to use that fusion key item colress gives us in BW2.
• Black and White and then Black and White 2 was suppose to have been on the 3DS. Both was scrapped after fan backlash they turned to beauty(X&Y) and thew in as many Gen 1-4 Pokemon as possible.
• Originally there was Gen 5 megas and they also was scrapped because GF was under the impression western fans didn't like Gen 5. - Sugimori back and forth arguments with Ohmori regarding Scarlet and Violets development
• Sugimori hated the school theme of Scarlet and Violet. Thought it was redundant and made no sense because you don't even spend time at school. Least favorite character design, etc, etc. Him and Ohmori bickered about it back and forth before just letting Ohmori have his way.
• Sugimori pissed at the anime staff
• They already developed new mega evolutions that the anime staff was against but Game Freak is forcing them to use it anymore in Horizon
• The real reason Ash left the show
• Sugimori scolding Masuda for his rush decisions during gen 3
• Gen 3 started development in 2000 and was originally dark
• Game Freak basically controls the anime and has A LOT more sway than we thought they did with Pokemon's IP.

It's a lot and I'm still reading the conversations

Smuchador

5mo

you readin 'em on discord?

Smuchador

5mo

you readin 'em on discord?

Nayuta

5mo

lol what was the real reason ash left

Nayuta

5mo

@Ultima

Ultima

5mo

If it wasn't for that we would probably still have Ash and Pikachu in the anime.

Also the entire plot for Horizons leaked.

• Sugimori still was complaining about the school theme and that's why Horizons doesn't follow S&V plot.

Smuchador

5mo

bruh can you link an invite? either here or in pm? I can't enter from the reddit one

Ultima

5mo

Have you read the internal conversations?!? That's the real treasures. We get to see what exactly is going through their heads during the design process.

• Ohmori was scared of death threats
• They actually do listen to feedback and was terrified of dexit but they was far to ahead to start development over.
• Gen V was suppose to have mega evolution and a fusion mechanic that was scrapped because western fans was upset they could catch Gen 1-4 Pokemon during the main story
• Most of the spriting and art for those scrapped Pokemon was done, but Masuda told Sugimori and the rest of the dev team to "get rid of them"
• There was suppose to be way more Pokemon that was suppose to use that fusion key item colress gives us in BW2.
• Black and White and then Black and White 2 was suppose to have been on the 3DS. Both was scrapped after fan backlash they turned to beauty(X&Y) and thew in as many Gen 1-4 Pokemon as possible.
• Originally there was Gen 5 megas and they also was scrapped because GF was under the impression western fans didn't like Gen 5. - Sugimori back and forth arguments with Ohmori regarding Scarlet and Violets development
• Sugimori hated the school theme of Scarlet and Violet. Thought it was redundant and made no sense because you don't even spend time at school. Least favorite character design, etc, etc. Him and Ohmori bickered about it back and forth before just letting Ohmori have his way.
• Sugimori pissed at the anime staff
• They already developed new mega evolutions that the anime staff was against but Game Freak is forcing them to use it anymore in Horizon
• The real reason Ash left the show
• Sugimori scolding Masuda for his rush decisions during gen 3
• Gen 3 started development in 2000 and was originally dark
• Game Freak basically controls the anime and has A LOT more sway than we thought they did with Pokemon's IP.

It's a lot and I'm still reading the conversations

Ultima

5mo

Have you read the internal conversations?!? That's the real treasures. We get to see what exactly is going through their heads during the design process.

• Ohmori was scared of death threats
• They actually do listen to feedback and was terrified of dexit but they was far to ahead to start development over.
• Gen V was suppose to have mega evolution and a fusion mechanic that was scrapped because western fans was upset they could catch Gen 1-4 Pokemon during the main story
• Most of the spriting and art for those scrapped Pokemon was done, but Masuda told Sugimori and the rest of the dev team to "get rid of them"
• There was suppose to be way more Pokemon that was suppose to use that fusion key item colress gives us in BW2.
• Black and White and then Black and White 2 was suppose to have been on the 3DS. Both was scrapped after fan backlash they turned to beauty(X&Y) and thew in as many Gen 1-4 Pokemon as possible.
• Originally there was Gen 5 megas and they also was scrapped because GF was under the impression western fans didn't like Gen 5. - Sugimori back and forth arguments with Ohmori regarding Scarlet and Violets development
• Sugimori hated the school theme of Scarlet and Violet. Thought it was redundant and made no sense because you don't even spend time at school. Least favorite character design, etc, etc. Him and Ohmori bickered about it back and forth before just letting Ohmori have his way.
• Sugimori pissed at the anime staff
• They already developed new mega evolutions that the anime staff was against but Game Freak is forcing them to use it anymore in Horizon
• The real reason Ash left the show
• Sugimori scolding Masuda for his rush decisions during gen 3
• Gen 3 started development in 2000 and was originally dark
• Game Freak basically controls the anime and has A LOT more sway than we thought they did with Pokemon's IP.

It's a lot and I'm still reading the conversations

Ultima

5mo

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Idk if it's fake or not. Nobody in the discord has said it's fake yet. But they have been feeding Centro fake leaks ever since they got banned. But it's definitely a conversation about the fusion mechanic in one file.

Edit: why I can never get imgur to work on here anymore 😭

MIXTAPEHNDRXXFREE

5mo

yep i know they been feeding his (pretty annoying) ass fake info, so when the tweet popped up i was impressed because this was a big leak

Maybe he means another thing? i was investigating and havent found no one confirming its fake too

btw can u pm the discord invite? i want to get all the info fr fr

MIXTAPEHNDRXXFREE

5mo

yep i know they been feeding his (pretty annoying) ass fake info, so when the tweet popped up i was impressed because this was a big leak

Maybe he means another thing? i was investigating and havent found no one confirming its fake too

btw can u pm the discord invite? i want to get all the info fr fr