Jul 20, 2022·2 repliesI'm still sceptical of that CIA report being anything definitive that stalin wasn't a dictator, or that he was a sane man
It's one report of many, and yes all autocrats have a group of supporters propping them up. Why would destalinisation be such a big thing to rejoice if he wasn't atrocious
- Jul 20, 2022·2 replies
americanaNot him but rather the political structure and stability of the political system as a whole. Following the death of Lenin there was a power vacuum that led to somewhat of a struggle between Trotsky, Lenin’s right hand guy, and Stalin, the leader who was elected by the party.
In the face of growing fascism that threatened the very existence of the Soviet people, let alone the Soviet government, there had to be desperate measures undertaken to preserve the political structure of the USSR so that it may weather the inevitable war with the Nazis
The issue is most countries had internal stability in the 20s and 30s. Yet most on the winning side didn't resort to this for the fascists to lose
- Jul 20, 2022·1 replyTragedyBerlusconi
The issue is most countries had internal stability in the 20s and 30s. Yet most on the winning side didn't resort to this for the fascists to lose
Because they weren’t the ones who were being Lebensraumed while Their political systems were in infancy
- Jul 20, 2022·2 repliesamericana
Because they weren’t the ones who were being Lebensraumed while Their political systems were in infancy
Honestly what you're saying is true if you view the soviet political system as the only one capable of delivering what was necessary
Sure they industrialised quickly and effectively but is that really the only way
- Jul 20, 2022TragedyBerlusconi
Honestly what you're saying is true if you view the soviet political system as the only one capable of delivering what was necessary
Sure they industrialised quickly and effectively but is that really the only way
Considering trotsky’s political agenda yes. Definitely yes
Jul 20, 2022·1 replyamericanaI mean it was between Germany having east Poland or the soviets
Warsaw might have been leveled only once or twice instead of like five times if Stalin got the whole thing right off the bat
- Jul 20, 2022·1 reply
Also stalin's offers to resign were loyalty tests and realpolitik
Attempt 1: stalin was well liked at the time and by having his resignation waved off, tacitly showed the Lenin document wasnt a reason for him to go
This happened multiple times, it's a tactic Ivan the terrible used to gain absolute power
Every attempt after opposition had been removed was a way to test loyalty. Guy wasn't serious
- Jul 20, 2022TragedyBerlusconi
I'm still sceptical of that CIA report being anything definitive that stalin wasn't a dictator, or that he was a sane man
It's one report of many, and yes all autocrats have a group of supporters propping them up. Why would destalinisation be such a big thing to rejoice if he wasn't atrocious
CIA wasn't living under the relentless propaganda that the Russians were for decades. Spies can only communicate so much.
- Jul 20, 2022TragedyBerlusconi
The issue is most countries had internal stability in the 20s and 30s. Yet most on the winning side didn't resort to this for the fascists to lose
You mean internal instability?
- Jul 20, 2022Elric
Warsaw might have been leveled only once or twice instead of like five times if Stalin got the whole thing right off the bat
Def agree but the Soviet war machine didn’t have much going for it in 1939
- Jul 20, 2022TragedyBerlusconi
I'm still sceptical of that CIA report being anything definitive that stalin wasn't a dictator, or that he was a sane man
It's one report of many, and yes all autocrats have a group of supporters propping them up. Why would destalinisation be such a big thing to rejoice if he wasn't atrocious
If the CIA was definitively making these comments on internal documents we’ll after he had passed, it’s more than believable to me
- Jul 20, 2022·1 replyTragedyBerlusconi
Honestly what you're saying is true if you view the soviet political system as the only one capable of delivering what was necessary
Sure they industrialised quickly and effectively but is that really the only way
My 3 hours of Wikipedia reading last night tells me they were not nearly as effective as they could have been
- Jul 20, 2022·1 replyElric
My 3 hours of Wikipedia reading last night tells me they were not nearly as effective as they could have been
Idk
the T-34 production process was one of the greatest military-industrial production feats I’ve ever seen - Jul 20, 2022TragedyBerlusconi
Also stalin's offers to resign were loyalty tests and realpolitik
Attempt 1: stalin was well liked at the time and by having his resignation waved off, tacitly showed the Lenin document wasnt a reason for him to go
This happened multiple times, it's a tactic Ivan the terrible used to gain absolute power
Every attempt after opposition had been removed was a way to test loyalty. Guy wasn't serious
F***ing Ivan. I wonder if George Lucas based the Sith Lords off Russian leadership over the ages cause goddamn these guys were savage with the power struggles from the tsars to the empire to the union
- Jul 20, 2022·1 replyamericana
Idk
the T-34 production process was one of the greatest military-industrial production feats I’ve ever seenBecause it was achieved with slave labour
eventually they got it done but it was definitely one step forward two steps backwards.also read the whole history of magnitogorsk last night lol. Half of the t34s were produced there but it was hell on Earth for everybody making them.
- Jul 20, 2022Elric
Because it was achieved with slave labour
eventually they got it done but it was definitely one step forward two steps backwards.also read the whole history of magnitogorsk last night lol. Half of the t34s were produced there but it was hell on Earth for everybody making them.
The Germans had far more Slave labor
I’m talking more organization of resources including labor
Also factoring these resources into tank design
Jul 20, 2022·1 replyamericanaThe Soviet union’s anti racist policies made themselves evident for droves of black peoples who traveled there from abroad
Too bad the SU doesn't exist anymore and we're left with an ultranational racist and homophobic regime in Russia
Jul 20, 2022·1 replyamericana“You are a bad faith arguer” while calling the Soviets just as antisemitic as the nazis is crazy
Bro I gotta see the Wikipedia page he got this from
- Jul 20, 2022Scratchin Mamba
Bro I gotta see the Wikipedia page he got this from
I never said the Soviets were. I said the Russians were. Not the same thing
- Jul 20, 2022Y0rn
Too bad the SU doesn't exist anymore and we're left with an ultranational racist and homophobic regime in Russia
f*** khuscheb - Jul 21, 2022·1 reply
- Jul 21, 2022https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1549526235683999745SEGA GOON
Nessy 🦎Jul 21, 2022PlanktonDelusional
It’s true just like homophobia decreases everywhere gay marriage is legalized
- Jul 21, 2022·1 replyPlankton
What does this have to do with anti semitism
- Jul 21, 2022·1 reply!https://youtu.be/C_n_qtgUKnYScratchin Mamba
Lenin and Stalin weren’t even Russian. For the last time I’m talking about RUSSIAN people
