Sep 5, 2022·2 replies
TragedyBerlusconiLet's be real, the ussr hurt many people who weren't aristocrats or major landowners, and even if they were capitalists they often didnt deserve such heavy crackdown for owning a field slightly bigger than average
And modern day russia is fascist in the sense that the security apparatus cut a deal with the oligarchs around the turn of the millennium where those who don't oppose Putin will be protected and those who do fall out of window. The security holds power and embeds oligarchs interests. You see patterns similar all over Russian history. The place just seems to have an authoritarian character
Just injecting some reality in here
Either way to cry about capitalists being oppressed in the USSR and simultaneously complain about Russian oligarchs is dumb, plankton and other liberals aren't just criticizing the excess of violence at certain points, but the violation of private property as a right altogether
- Sep 5, 2022Scratchin Mamba
Either way to cry about capitalists being oppressed in the USSR and simultaneously complain about Russian oligarchs is dumb, plankton and other liberals aren't just criticizing the excess of violence at certain points, but the violation of private property as a right altogether
I'm going off on a tangent but the violation of a sheep farmers or market sellers private property is in my opinion worse than seizing the land of someone who owns serfs, backed by the states enforcement
In either case, we can't feel sorry for either oligarchs or aristocrats. Cronyism from the start
- Sep 5, 2022·1 replyScratchin Mamba
And those "oppressed capitalists" created what after the overthrow of the USSR right
overthrow of the USSR
what a way to describe a logical end of stillborn, bound to collapse "union"
- Sep 5, 2022·1 replyleif erikson
overthrow of the USSR
what a way to describe a logical end of stillborn, bound to collapse "union"
There was a referendum in 1991 and most republics voted to preserve the union, including the country you so love, Ukraine.
Sep 5, 2022·6 replies“Deputy Prime Minister of Ukraine Iryna Vereshchuk described the referendum as "a farce and a circus," and warned Ukrainian citizens against participating.
"For our citizens who will participate in this — this is, in fact, an article of the Criminal Code," she said. "Do not to take part in any 'referendums.' Neither pressure, nor forceful incitement, etc., will be able to justify the fact that a person went to the 'referendum,'" she said.”
What the hell lmao
Sep 5, 2022·1 replySir Real“Deputy Prime Minister of Ukraine Iryna Vereshchuk described the referendum as "a farce and a circus," and warned Ukrainian citizens against participating.
"For our citizens who will participate in this — this is, in fact, an article of the Criminal Code," she said. "Do not to take part in any 'referendums.' Neither pressure, nor forceful incitement, etc., will be able to justify the fact that a person went to the 'referendum,'" she said.”
What the hell lmao
very normal in wartime man.
- Sep 5, 2022Sir Real
“Deputy Prime Minister of Ukraine Iryna Vereshchuk described the referendum as "a farce and a circus," and warned Ukrainian citizens against participating.
"For our citizens who will participate in this — this is, in fact, an article of the Criminal Code," she said. "Do not to take part in any 'referendums.' Neither pressure, nor forceful incitement, etc., will be able to justify the fact that a person went to the 'referendum,'" she said.”
What the hell lmao
We're fighting for democracy
- Sep 5, 2022austin_butler_fan4
very normal in wartime man.
They’re basically saying that even if a Russian made you vote in the referendum at gun point you’ll be prosecuted
And if they’re supposedly sham referendums anyway why are they worried about their citizens participating
Sep 5, 2022·1 replySir Real“Deputy Prime Minister of Ukraine Iryna Vereshchuk described the referendum as "a farce and a circus," and warned Ukrainian citizens against participating.
"For our citizens who will participate in this — this is, in fact, an article of the Criminal Code," she said. "Do not to take part in any 'referendums.' Neither pressure, nor forceful incitement, etc., will be able to justify the fact that a person went to the 'referendum,'" she said.”
What the hell lmao
they straight up want their own citizens to kill themselves
- Sep 5, 2022Sir Real
“Deputy Prime Minister of Ukraine Iryna Vereshchuk described the referendum as "a farce and a circus," and warned Ukrainian citizens against participating.
"For our citizens who will participate in this — this is, in fact, an article of the Criminal Code," she said. "Do not to take part in any 'referendums.' Neither pressure, nor forceful incitement, etc., will be able to justify the fact that a person went to the 'referendum,'" she said.”
What the hell lmao
- Sep 5, 2022
DEMOCRACY IS WHEN THING I AGREE WITH HAPPENS
THE MORE THE THING I AGREE WITH HAPPENS THE MORE DEMOCRATIC IT IS
- Sep 5, 2022Sir Real
“Deputy Prime Minister of Ukraine Iryna Vereshchuk described the referendum as "a farce and a circus," and warned Ukrainian citizens against participating.
"For our citizens who will participate in this — this is, in fact, an article of the Criminal Code," she said. "Do not to take part in any 'referendums.' Neither pressure, nor forceful incitement, etc., will be able to justify the fact that a person went to the 'referendum,'" she said.”
What the hell lmao
I'm not speaking on the second paragraph but yes the referendums will be a farce carried out at gunpoint and not carried out fairly. This isnt a lie
- Sep 5, 2022·2 repliesScratchin Mamba
The place just seems to have an authoritarian character
Most sophisticated and least orientalist liberal a***ysis
Read why nations fail
Critical junctures --> extractive institutions
Predispose a nation to authoritarian governance
The mongol invasions delivered a critical juncture to early rus society that prompted Russia to be structured around expansion and autocratic rule
- Sep 5, 2022·1 replyTragedyBerlusconi
Read why nations fail
Critical junctures --> extractive institutions
Predispose a nation to authoritarian governance
The mongol invasions delivered a critical juncture to early rus society that prompted Russia to be structured around expansion and autocratic rule
Do you actually believe this s***?
- Sep 5, 2022Scratchin Mamba
Do you actually believe this s***?
Institutions determine a states developmental trajectory. It isnt geography nor is it culture. It's whether they are set up to be extractive or open
The system of production lies one layer above that. That's the fundamental determinant
It's why centrally planning an economy develops and industrialises you for a while but 'doesn't produce sustainable growth past this point
Russia has never developed inclusive institutions
- Sep 5, 2022SEGA GOON
There was a referendum in 1991 and most republics voted to preserve the union, including the country you so love, Ukraine.
right, like i've implied that people who were literally raised to love ussr hated soviets at its most harmless form. but you do you, dweeb
ukrainian independence referendum is more illustrative
- Sep 5, 2022Sir Real
“Deputy Prime Minister of Ukraine Iryna Vereshchuk described the referendum as "a farce and a circus," and warned Ukrainian citizens against participating.
"For our citizens who will participate in this — this is, in fact, an article of the Criminal Code," she said. "Do not to take part in any 'referendums.' Neither pressure, nor forceful incitement, etc., will be able to justify the fact that a person went to the 'referendum,'" she said.”
What the hell lmao
Dont go to the polls tomorrow
- Sep 5, 2022·1 reply
Whether you agree with the Ukrainian policy toward people who vote or not, the referendums are not legitimate and are a sham and shouldn't be thought of as anything else
The Russian troops overseeing them should be shot
- Sep 5, 2022WRU
they straight up want their own citizens to kill themselves
vereshchyuk speaches often raise questions, but nothing like that came from that statement. basically a stop signal for ruski mir enthusiasts
or is it another "ukrainians killing themselves" stinky russian narrative?
- Sep 5, 2022·1 replyTragedyBerlusconi
Whether you agree with the Ukrainian policy toward people who vote or not, the referendums are not legitimate and are a sham and shouldn't be thought of as anything else
The Russian troops overseeing them should be shot
See you are about to lose in any election
Refuse to participate in said election
Call results of said election illegitimateThe Venezuela playbook
- Sep 5, 2022
btw russia delayed referendum again. where are tankie memes?
- Sep 5, 2022·1 replySEGA GOON
See you are about to lose in any election
Refuse to participate in said election
Call results of said election illegitimateThe Venezuela playbook
Do you seriously think Ukrainians in kherson are going to look at what they're being subjected to and think 'more of this please' in a fair and equitable referendum.
Seriously?
- Sep 5, 2022·1 replyTragedyBerlusconi
Do you seriously think Ukrainians in kherson are going to look at what they're being subjected to and think 'more of this please' in a fair and equitable referendum.
Seriously?
sega goon is a stinkie, what else he has to say?
first they failed with those predictions, now they're trying to be ironic. and these tone-deaf off-key parallels are the most entertaining part
- Sep 5, 2022·1 replyleif erikson
sega goon is a stinkie, what else he has to say?
first they failed with those predictions, now they're trying to be ironic. and these tone-deaf off-key parallels are the most entertaining part
Crazy part is they think we're all neocons who want to coup Venezuela
- Sep 5, 2022TragedyBerlusconi
Crazy part is they think we're all neocons who want to coup Venezuela
Only like half