Europes been a hollow shell held up by American and Soviet-Russian projects and the draining coffers of imperialism since 1945 tbf
Yep. Only a matter of time tbh
Why include "liberal" in there? Do you have facts to back up that this is only a liberal government issue and not an issue regardless of party?
I mean liberalism by the economic system of neoliberalism and not the “ideology”
Donald trump is a neoliberal, as is Obama
Buddy you smoking crack if you think an eastern european would ever in his life trust Russian State 
As a side you so deep in your rabbit hole that you think East Europe hate towards Russia State comes from America
You’re an idiot if you think that’s what I’m saying
what did snowboy and wru do? lmao
he doesn't like me because I'm a swarthy arab savage upsetting his white european order
You’re an idiot if you think that’s what I’m saying
Thats what you said tho
All your arguments about Eastern Europe is that their dislike for Russia comes from Western Society you ignoring pre WW1 history buddy
Thats what you said tho
All your arguments about Eastern Europe is that their dislike for Russia comes from Western Society you ignoring pre WW1 history buddy
That’s not what I said lololololol I said capitalists have pragmatic purposes to their choices
The destitution of the Russian sphere gave pragmatic reason to move elsewhere
I mean liberalism by the economic system of neoliberalism and not the “ideology”
Donald trump is a neoliberal, as is Obama
Ah I see, my bad just so used to beefing with people who just think "liberal === bad"
Ah I see, my bad just so used to beefing with people who just think "liberal === bad"
Ur good it’s a problem I have with overlapping verbiage
That’s not what I said lololololol I said capitalists have pragmatic purposes to their choices
The destitution of the Russian sphere gave pragmatic reason to move elsewhere
Keep spinning what you said for 400 pages over this conflict bro 
You blame the eastern dislike for russia on the west
Keep spinning what you said for 400 pages over this conflict bro 
You blame the eastern dislike for russia on the west
I do not
I blame the extension of this war on the west for exploiting the ideological hopes and dreams of the Ukrainian people
Keep spinning what you said for 400 pages over this conflict bro 
You blame the eastern dislike for russia on the west
So this all started on Page Vertical 1400
How Putinesque of you to take things back that far
Buddy you smoking crack if you think an eastern european would ever in his life trust Russian State 
As a side you so deep in your rabbit hole that you think East Europe hate towards Russia State comes from America
my geezer Czech father in law doesnt even trust Ukrainians cause they're too close to Russia lol
man was an elite mountain climber that the Russians hired to teach them how to traverse crazy central Europe regions. went on an expedition in the far east of Russia with a crew of illustrious climbers from all over the eastern bloc to install a giant bust of Lenin on some remote mountaintop
eventually escaped to the west through some treacherous mountain pass with a buddy in the mid 80s. has alot of crazy stories once we've had a few glasses of wine. f***in hates Russians.
I do not
I blame the extension of this war on the west for exploiting the ideological hopes and dreams of the Ukrainian people
You and your guys apply this "exploting" angle on all post soviet block states bro 
It's like the will of the people don't matter to yall they are all influenced by the west
my geezer Czech father in law doesnt even trust Ukrainians cause they're too close to Russia lol
man was an elite mountain climber that the Russians hired to teach them how to traverse crazy central Europe regions. went on an expedition in the far east of Russia with a crew of illustrious climbers from all over the eastern bloc to install a giant bust of Lenin on some remote mountaintop
eventually escaped to the west through some treacherous mountain pass with a buddy in the mid 80s. has alot of crazy stories once we've had a few glasses of wine. f***in hates Russians.
Go into any village in Eastern Europe and say some pro Russian s*** and the elders would jump you these troglodytes don't understand that and blame it on the west
You and your guys apply this "exploting" angle on all post soviet block states bro 
It's like the will of the people don't matter to yall they are all influenced by the west
I personally think all Europeans and their colonizer descendants are Neanderthal mud farmers who are finally receiving what they collectively deserve after centuries of poisoning the rest of their world with their ugly genetics and terrible food
So if you want to keep swearing by the the will of a bunch of cabbage eating inbreeders then I think I’ll have to understand that I’ll be happy letting you
God bless
theres no imperialism on russias part because this is not 1905 and theres only one world hegemon which is the united states of america. russia is not an empire, its a powerful neighbor but it has little to no soft or hard power or capital to maintain any kind of imperialism among its neighbors, as this conflict clearly demonstrates. the whole thing began quite literally because there were multiple oligarch camps in both countries that got their money from different activities; one managed to exploit their resource base so potently accumulated during the socialist period, the other was always one to benefit from that as well but also looked towards 'foreign' capital thinking itll improve their situation should they open up their country to it
this is a local conflict thats been brewing based on contradictory nationalistic notions of two neighboring countries and their ruling classes being at odds with each other
While I don't agree
I'm talking about the US
I personally think all Europeans and their colonizer descendants are Neanderthal mud farmers who are finally receiving what they collectively deserve after centuries of poisoning the rest of their world with their ugly genetics and terrible food
So if you want to keep swearing by the the will of a bunch of cabbage eating inbreeders then I think I’ll have to understand that I’ll be happy letting you
God bless
Buddy you live in america they selling cardboard as food there for profit you don't have a right to speak about food itt
Buddy you live in america they selling cardboard as food there for profit you don't have a right to speak about food itt
I was raised in Afghanistan and have nothing to return to because America destroyed it all the exact same way they’re destroying Ukraine
Make like a shrimp and Krill yourself
Why shouldn't independent countries have a right to decide there own future? Unless Russia is willing to give them security and sovereignty guarantees why would it make sense for these countries to not pursue NATO?
it does make sense for most countries to want this and they're not wrong for wanting to join NATO.
But Ukraine isn't just any independent country. They use to be part of Soviet Russia and Kiev is the birthplace of Russia. It's normal for Putin to be attached since he's from that Soviet regime and for security purposes. That context is very important.
If Ukraine were to join NATO and a conflict were to escalate between Russia and Ukraine, would you personally be comfortable for US and NATO forces to be in a large scale war with Russia?
Would you then be okay for a full nuclear war?
The reason why I'm asking you personally is because small events involving countries can snowball and affect US and the rest of the world when you have large alliances. That's how World War 1 started. We can't have something like that again.
I know it's unfair to Ukraine and it's messed up to say this but to prevent further conflict and to have peace, Ukraine CAN'T join NATO.
There's just too much at risk.
I was raised in Afghanistan and have nothing to return to because America destroyed it all the exact same way they’re destroying Ukraine
Make like a shrimp and Krill yourself
I don't see American troops in Ukraine mate carpet bombing citites and doing war crimes. Let me know when USA deployed American soldiers in Ukraine
I personally think all Europeans and their colonizer descendants are Neanderthal mud farmers who are finally receiving what they collectively deserve after centuries of poisoning the rest of their world with their ugly genetics and terrible food
So if you want to keep swearing by the the will of a bunch of cabbage eating inbreeders then I think I’ll have to understand that I’ll be happy letting you
God bless