im just kinda being an a****** lol

ur correct and it would mean war but im saying that’s russia’s decision to make this a matter to wage war over

like its not a direct invasion of their country

but just like we dont want them to invade ukraine, they dont want them to join it, and both are correct in feeling that way

which puts ukraine in a f***ed situation

it didnt need to get to this point imo

imperialism or not (even tho it is imperialism by every sense of the word) it’s still wrong

update title @op

Honestly I'm not even being funny, being a leftist and supporting Putin is the byproduct of a twitter-fried brain, dumbass contrarian nonsense

idgi tho whats ur point?

are u saying theyre not credible sources due to being far right wing?

What makes it wrong?

Western Media is corporately owned and every last one of them directly benefits from drawing up agendas and reporting in such a way that their agendas are satisfied. Accurate reporting be damned

I’m not supporting Putin but there’s some major misconceptions about intentions and realities of either side itt

the ukranian government along with the rest of the international community does not recognize the DPR or LPR are sovereign states

thereofre russia’s recognition of them as such, and any actions to further that status, is an explicit offensive attack from russia onto ukraine, not the other way around

offensive attacks that are based off nothing but arbitrary desires such as “ethnic unification” are morally condemnable. hitler invading austria was not okay even if austrians were with the s***s

what lies have been told tho?

putin sent the troops out lol

regardless of whether we want to call it an “invasion” or not, putin ordered troops to enter beyond borders he does not control

You chose the worst Hitler example because Austrians were giddy at joining Germany and had a referendum. Should have chosen Sudetenland or Schlesia as your example

This is a terrible argument dude. You’re really saying self determination is immoral unless it’s internationally and universally recognized ?

So what about the Koreas? Taiwan? Palestine? Kashmir? Kurds? The Rohingya?

NATOcel talking about having armies inside borders they dont control...

Every time they're shown on TV on the news here, it's always framed as 'they're a nationalist group, who Russia claims are Neo-Nazis' then conveniently mentions fake news tactics employed by Russia, followed by interviews with members saying 'Russia says we are far-right, Neo-Nazi, do you see any far-right extremism here?', which are not challenged, and the group's actual history of far-right extremism is never brought up

The framing is that they're freedom fighters willing to protect their country, whose far-right associations are a smear by Russia, and as Russian state media can never be trusted ever, them accusing them of being Neo Nazis essentially is used as evidence that they're not far-right at all

It's baffling to me that Western media seem to be completely falling under the spell of a right-wing extremist group just because they're on the 'good' side, I'm not saying Right Sector's information is inherently flawed due to their extremist views, but it's crazy that the reality that, yes, they are an ultra-conservative group with a history of extreme anti-LGBTQ+ stances is actively being covered up by Western media outlets

who quoted this inbred

i precisely chose austria for that reason dumbass

Well, Austrians loved being Nazis so it's a dumb reason

You really have no concept of history

Bro people saying why are you pro-Putin is actually hilarious lmao

Like who has unironically said anything good about Putin itt

Like just one thing

It's like you can't criticize US media narrative about a country or leader without being in full support of them

Oh no, the State Department Official saying the quiet part out loud

Like when I call out right wing republican about democrats, does that mean I'm a democrat now lol? Or the other way around too occasionally

People can't stick to the argument at hand so they gotta resort to pearl clutching lib bullshit

"Ethnic separatism is bad"
-> supports Kosovo

"Putin has troops outside borders he doesn't control"
-> So does NATO

"Russia just invaded Ukraine!"
-> But you were crying about them being occupied since 2014, so which one is it?

You tryna sacrifice yourself and the world for Ukrainian rule over the Crimea bruh?

yup self determination is immoral (even with international recognition) if its gonna lead to widespread murder

and things that happened in ancient times are things that happened in ancient times

id really need to know what u mean by each example tho cuz idk if ur saying that with my logic we couldnt have supporter a western influenced korea or not, so if u feel im being hypocritical lmk