Russo-Ukrainian War

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  • Feb 28, 2022
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    european leaders really want nukes to fly over their head

  • Feb 28, 2022
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    STILLSUNNY

    i watched it when u posted it right before im not gonna ignore what you're posting

    Ukraine is the only country in the world that has

    1. An openly Neo-Nazi group named after a racist phrase, paid as the official city special police (not just any city, but the capital + several other cities)

    And

    2. An openly Neo-nazi paramilitary working alongside the state military in an official capacity

    All going on for several years before this invasion

    It is in no way comparable to any other country in the world as far as the institutionalization of open Nazis goes.

  • Feb 28, 2022
    French
    https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1498223457074614272

    european leaders really want nukes to fly over their head

    These ppl are truly redacted beyond belief.

  • Feb 28, 2022
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    Scratchin Mamba

    Oh I'm sure all those homeless people are enjoying their right to write a dissenting article in the newspapers

    That's what he's saying tho

    And like there is no poverty in another situation wtf

    Btw: Von der Leyen needs to stfu

  • Feb 28, 2022
    Y0rn

    I dont think its bout economy here if i read his post correctly, they just want political freedom

    this too

    I'm not ukrainian, but I am Latvian and Latvia has 100% had its fair share of russian takeovers. And I can confidently say that most Latvians would easily choose to be poor and free over being better off but politically part of Russia.

    actually it's quite complex because in the Soviet times they killed hundreds of thousands of Latvians and shipped in hundreds of thousands of Russians to try and erase the culture. Now a really sizable chunk of people living in Latvia are actually just Russian. and I doubt they would feel as strongly about Latvian independence

  • Feb 28, 2022
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    ARCADE GOON

    Ukraine is the only country in the world that has

    1. An openly Neo-Nazi group named after a racist phrase, paid as the official city special police (not just any city, but the capital + several other cities)

    And

    2. An openly Neo-nazi paramilitary working alongside the state military in an official capacity

    All going on for several years before this invasion

    It is in no way comparable to any other country in the world as far as the institutionalization of open Nazis goes.

    man, you keep posting this but i don't understand what you're implying

    do you agree with Putin that Russia should destroy the Ukraine state because it's a neo-nazi state ?

    you can have this opinion, but just say it clearly

  • Feb 28, 2022
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    fashion killa

    hm fair

    also yeah russia invading them wouldn't fix a single dam thing lmao

    it prob would be significantly worse living under russian rule tbh

    also. US backed the coup. they played a hand in installing the current leadership. There's also a s*** ton of oil n natural gas in Ukraine. It must take a LOT of restraint for the greedy b******s at the top to keep from jumping in

    For sure, a Russian invasion won't do s*** at all, even besides the violation of sovereignty Russia's capitalism isn't any less exploitative

    And yeah US coup was really the start of all this

    What I also don't understand is if the West had all this intelligence about a Russian invasion, why did they close the door to Ukrainian neutrality. Is the prospect of a Western-aligned Ukraine so important to them that they're willing to stand by and watch Ukraine get invaded because of their hardline policy of NATO?

  • Feb 28, 2022
    French
    https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1498223457074614272

    european leaders really want nukes to fly over their head

    They must know something we don’t.

    Surely.

  • Feb 28, 2022
    French
    https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1498223457074614272

    european leaders really want nukes to fly over their head

    Ukraine requested a lot of s***. Doesnt mean they will get it.

    Zelensky lied about Turkey closing the Bosphorus Strait 2 days ago and Turkish officials had to come out and say such a conversation never happened.

  • Feb 28, 2022
    Scratchin Mamba

    For sure, a Russian invasion won't do s*** at all, even besides the violation of sovereignty Russia's capitalism isn't any less exploitative

    And yeah US coup was really the start of all this

    What I also don't understand is if the West had all this intelligence about a Russian invasion, why did they close the door to Ukrainian neutrality. Is the prospect of a Western-aligned Ukraine so important to them that they're willing to stand by and watch Ukraine get invaded because of their hardline policy of NATO?

    Because the military industry complex gets billions from this and so do US energy companies after Russian gas gets cut off. It is worth it for them.

    Germany alone pledged 100 billion euros for their military this year. How much of that goes to Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon...

  • Feb 28, 2022
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    Y0rn

    That's what he's saying tho

    And like there is no poverty in another situation wtf

    Btw: Von der Leyen needs to stfu

    There wasnt poverty like that in Ukraine when it was in the USSR tho lol

    What she saying rn

  • Feb 28, 2022
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    French

    man, you keep posting this but i don't understand what you're implying

    do you agree with Putin that Russia should destroy the Ukraine state because it's a neo-nazi state ?

    you can have this opinion, but just say it clearly

    I oppose arming Nazis under any circumstances

  • Feb 28, 2022
    French
    https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1498223457074614272

    european leaders really want nukes to fly over their head

    Bruh keep them out wtf

  • Feb 28, 2022
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    Scratchin Mamba

    There wasnt poverty like that in Ukraine when it was in the USSR tho lol

    What she saying rn

    Shes in favour of Ukraine joining the EU

  • Feb 28, 2022
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    PUTIN I KNOW YOU GOT SHOOTERS PLEASE DONT SEND EM AT MY HEAD

  • Feb 28, 2022
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    Y0rn

    Shes in favour of Ukraine joining the EU

    Wtf im a NEXITER now

  • Feb 28, 2022
    Scratchin Mamba

    PUTIN I KNOW YOU GOT SHOOTERS PLEASE DONT SEND EM AT MY HEAD

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    Scratchin Mamba

    For sure, a Russian invasion won't do s*** at all, even besides the violation of sovereignty Russia's capitalism isn't any less exploitative

    And yeah US coup was really the start of all this

    What I also don't understand is if the West had all this intelligence about a Russian invasion, why did they close the door to Ukrainian neutrality. Is the prospect of a Western-aligned Ukraine so important to them that they're willing to stand by and watch Ukraine get invaded because of their hardline policy of NATO?

    it prob wasn't the west who forced Ukraine to consider NATO membership seriously.

    It was prob the people.

    Bruh living under Russia sucks d***. and u can say all u want abt how US and NATO might be manipulative or whatever but that protection is so super crucial. If Ukrainians are anything like Latvians, they would 100% be for NATO membership, especially after the crimea situation.

    I dont think Ukraine pushing for NATO membership was a part of the west's plan tbh. The west is poweful but not like pure absolute power lol. other countries still have some degree of autonomy and not everything goes according to the west's master plan

  • fashion killa
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    it prob wasn't the west who forced Ukraine to consider NATO membership seriously.

    It was prob the people.

    Bruh living under Russia sucks d***. and u can say all u want abt how US and NATO might be manipulative or whatever but that protection is so super crucial. If Ukrainians are anything like Latvians, they would 100% be for NATO membership, especially after the crimea situation.

    I dont think Ukraine pushing for NATO membership was a part of the west's plan tbh. The west is poweful but not like pure absolute power lol. other countries still have some degree of autonomy and not everything goes according to the west's master plan

    Yeah living under US>>> Living under russia

  • Feb 28, 2022
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    ARCADE GOON

    I oppose arming Nazis under any circumstances

    ok, you oppose arming nazis. i think it's a reasonable position, i'm also not a big fan of giving weapons to Ukraine right now.

    do you support the idea that Russia should destroy the actual Ukraine state/government because of its links with nazis ?

  • Feb 28, 2022
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    Scratchin Mamba

    Wtf im a NEXITER now

    If Ukraine in we have to vote Thierry

  • Feb 28, 2022
    French

    ok, you oppose arming nazis. i think it's a reasonable position, i'm also not a big fan of giving weapons to Ukraine right now.

    do you support the idea that Russia should destroy the actual Ukraine state/government because of its links with nazis ?

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    fashion killa

    it prob wasn't the west who forced Ukraine to consider NATO membership seriously.

    It was prob the people.

    Bruh living under Russia sucks d***. and u can say all u want abt how US and NATO might be manipulative or whatever but that protection is so super crucial. If Ukrainians are anything like Latvians, they would 100% be for NATO membership, especially after the crimea situation.

    I dont think Ukraine pushing for NATO membership was a part of the west's plan tbh. The west is poweful but not like pure absolute power lol. other countries still have some degree of autonomy and not everything goes according to the west's master plan

    It absolutely was lmao, they already wanted Ukraine to join NATO in 2008

    And bro NATO membership was HIGHLY unpopular in Ukraine until they got sucked into a proxy-war with Russia after the coup in 2014

  • Feb 28, 2022
    ARCADE GOON

    Ukraine is the only country in the world that has

    1. An openly Neo-Nazi group named after a racist phrase, paid as the official city special police (not just any city, but the capital + several other cities)

    And

    2. An openly Neo-nazi paramilitary working alongside the state military in an official capacity

    All going on for several years before this invasion

    It is in no way comparable to any other country in the world as far as the institutionalization of open Nazis goes.

    i understand

    disgusting i totally agree

    reading up on this topic the government seems to have been trying to quell these groups after 2018 but also i dont live there so idk how much this worked rferl.org/a/deputized-as-election-monitors-ukrainian-ultranationalists-ready-to-punch-violators/29809207.html

    my ukranians friends are very far left leaning but this is very anectodal and i understand these issues dont go away overnight

    but if you still cant justify attacks on civilian areas because a population has an alt right problem, by that logic you'd be ok with terrorists blowing up skyscrapers in NY because of the alt right problem in america (im not saying you are ok with this im jsut using this as an example as to why its still important to support ukraine in this scenario)