Russo-Ukrainian War

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  • Feb 28, 2022
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    lil ufo

    2015
    https://uncensored.co.nz/2022/02/28/from-2015-military-training-for-young-children-at-ukraine-neo-nazi-summer-camp-recruitment-of-ukraines-child-soldiers-financed-by-us-nonlethal-military-aid/

    This Nazi problem been a thing us "tankies" been talking about for a long time. But because people couldn't point to Ukraine on a map before this they think we're just regurgitating Russian propaganda

  • Feb 28, 2022
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    STEPPA PIG

  • Feb 28, 2022
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    HaroldsChicken
    https://twitter.com/id4ro/status/1497957900534403084

  • Feb 28, 2022
    French

    She white passing so they like her

  • Feb 28, 2022

    true

  • Feb 28, 2022
    HaroldsChicken
    https://twitter.com/id4ro/status/1497957900534403084

    I was speaking on it more from the perspective of what people post on social media than SNL tbh There's a lot of posturing and people caring about some issues, but not at all about others. People on my IG cared about Palestine more because they're Muslim, but people I know have been a lot quieter about this situation in Ukraine

    That's just how it is, I don't see why there needs to be outrage about how only certain issues get highlighted

  • Feb 28, 2022
    ARCADE GOON

    Pack your bags my boy. Hide in the attic.

    it's not that kind of situation

  • Feb 28, 2022
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    Crazy thread

  • Feb 28, 2022

    Honestly tho wtf is the problem with some of these people who are accusing people - especially minorities in Europe - of supporting a Russian invasion just because we don't want our governments to arm a militia that is giving military training to Nazis across Europe, when there are (non-Azov) Ukrainian border guards sending black students to the back of the line and Ukrainian national guard social media accounts celebrating dipping bullets in pig fat

    The nastiest of white supremacist Cold War propaganda tactics have made a return. Yall should be ashamed of yourselves

  • Feb 28, 2022
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    Great talk that gives you much needed perspective on everything leading up to thid conflict. This guy called it 6 years ago.

  • Feb 28, 2022
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    Primate
    !https://youtu.be/JrMiSQAGOS4

    Great talk that gives you much needed perspective on everything leading up to thid conflict. This guy called it 6 years ago.

    Cliff notes

  • Feb 28, 2022
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    I'm not sure if Putin could have just conquered Ukraine that easily, but I agree. This is just Afghanistan 2.0, for both Russia and the US. ForbRussia because they got baited into a war that will damage them economically, and for the US because they're turning a blind eye to the most extremist elements of of the country's resistance getting armed with no regard for what this could mean for said country and the prospects of that extremist ideology spreading beyond its borders. History is repeating itself.

  • Feb 28, 2022
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    GhostDeini718

    Cliff notes

    Basically saying nato/us should stop expanding. Keep Ukraine as a neutral buffer state between Europe and Russia. Cuz if Russia did the same s*** in Canada or Mexico, US would not sit back n do nothing.

    Western powers, despite all the signs, tried pushing Ukraine's westernisation/nato inclusion, hence the current conflict.

    Its a really engaging talk... I suggest watching it

  • Feb 28, 2022
    kiddash3r

    Crazy thread

    https://twitter.com/emeriticus/status/1497977379322400773

    Fight info warfare with info warfare

  • Feb 28, 2022
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    Primate

    Basically saying nato/us should stop expanding. Keep Ukraine as a neutral buffer state between Europe and Russia. Cuz if Russia did the same s*** in Canada or Mexico, US would not sit back n do nothing.

    Western powers, despite all the signs, tried pushing Ukraine's westernisation/nato inclusion, hence the current conflict.

    Its a really engaging talk... I suggest watching it

    Thanks

    Also interesting to know Ukrainians opinion on that, because a lot of them do want to be part of Europe and tired of Russia bullying them

  • Feb 28, 2022
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    I don't believe he wants to conquer ukraine

    He wants to cut the head off the government and install his own

  • Feb 28, 2022
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    GhostDeini718

    Thanks

    Also interesting to know Ukrainians opinion on that, because a lot of them do want to be part of Europe and tired of Russia bullying them

    He covers that in the talk too. Eastern Ukraine is Russia leaning and speak russian even. Western Ukraine is more Euro centric.

  • Feb 28, 2022

    Also building dirty bombs out of nuclear waste is a bullshit conspiracy theory. Doing that is irrational and completely ruins russias image even more. Both sides have an interest in pripyat being guarded, they don't want radiation poisoning in their territory

  • Feb 28, 2022
    TragedyBerlusconi

    I don't believe he wants to conquer ukraine

    He wants to cut the head off the government and install his own

    He wants to destabilise Ukraine to the point NATO/US doesn't want it anymore.

  • Feb 28, 2022
    vayla

    cruel world we live in man.

    Crazy how serious s*** be goin on in the world between other people and yet black folk still somehow get disrespected

    China did the same s*** during peak COVID era

  • Feb 28, 2022
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    GhostDeini718

    Cliff notes

    Prolly the tenth time I'm copypasting this post itt lmao, but it's pretty much a summary of what he says in that lecture:

    NATO is a military alliance that was formed in case that the West would possibly ever have to go to war with Russia during the cold war. Article 5 says that if one NATO member is attacked, it's regarded as an attack against all NATO members.

    With the taking down of the Berlin wall, the US promised to Gorbachev would not move "one inch forward" to the East. A promise that has not been held as many other Eastern European countries have joined NATO.

    The reason Ukrainian NATO membership is such a threat is that Ukraine is right at their borders. The black sea fleet in the Crimea was Russia's only fleet that was available year round, which is why they annexed the Crimea in 2014 after the US-backed coup in Ukraine, because they would lose access to that fleet which they see as crucial for their security.

    In addition, Ukraine has also hinted at "liberating" (ie invading) the Crimea, if Ukraine does that as a NATO member, it's essentially the same as entirety of the West invading the Crimea, as Putin said here:

    Right now it, Putin isn't gonna annex all of Ukraine, but he's gonna attempt to install a puppet leader who won't pursue NATO membership and probably integrate the republics of the Donbass into the Russian Federation eventually, unless there will be diplomacy and a neutrality agreement with Ukraine and NATO.

    It was also always clear that Putin was a Russian nationalist who had a lot of nostalgia for the Russian empire. He always criticized Lenin for giving nations that were part of the Czarist empire like Ukraine too much autonomy and giving republics in the USSR the right to secede. Which adds fuel to the fire.

    So that's why Putin is trying to prevent this, he's taking it very far and taking a by any means necessary approach to it. Combine that with his attitudes about the Russian empire, and it's not a total surprise that he would want to do this to prevent what he regards as a region part of the former Russian empire which he dearly misses joining a hostile military alliance, but it is surprising that he's willing to face the repercussions that this will bring for Russia, which will be a lot.

  • Scratchin Mamba

    Prolly the tenth time I'm copypasting this post itt lmao, but it's pretty much a summary of what he says in that lecture:

    NATO is a military alliance that was formed in case that the West would possibly ever have to go to war with Russia during the cold war. Article 5 says that if one NATO member is attacked, it's regarded as an attack against all NATO members.

    With the taking down of the Berlin wall, the US promised to Gorbachev would not move "one inch forward" to the East. A promise that has not been held as many other Eastern European countries have joined NATO.

    The reason Ukrainian NATO membership is such a threat is that Ukraine is right at their borders. The black sea fleet in the Crimea was Russia's only fleet that was available year round, which is why they annexed the Crimea in 2014 after the US-backed coup in Ukraine, because they would lose access to that fleet which they see as crucial for their security.

    In addition, Ukraine has also hinted at "liberating" (ie invading) the Crimea, if Ukraine does that as a NATO member, it's essentially the same as entirety of the West invading the Crimea, as Putin said here:

    !https://youtu.be/RJXwLzII278

    Right now it, Putin isn't gonna annex all of Ukraine, but he's gonna attempt to install a puppet leader who won't pursue NATO membership and probably integrate the republics of the Donbass into the Russian Federation eventually, unless there will be diplomacy and a neutrality agreement with Ukraine and NATO.

    It was also always clear that Putin was a Russian nationalist who had a lot of nostalgia for the Russian empire. He always criticized Lenin for giving nations that were part of the Czarist empire like Ukraine too much autonomy and giving republics in the USSR the right to secede. Which adds fuel to the fire.

    So that's why Putin is trying to prevent this, he's taking it very far and taking a by any means necessary approach to it. Combine that with his attitudes about the Russian empire, and it's not a total surprise that he would want to do this to prevent what he regards as a region part of the former Russian empire which he dearly misses joining a hostile military alliance, but it is surprising that he's willing to face the repercussions that this will bring for Russia, which will be a lot.

    Yeah tbis is all true and valid

  • Feb 28, 2022
    Primate

    He covers that in the talk too. Eastern Ukraine is Russia leaning and speak russian even. Western Ukraine is more Euro centric.

    Yeah I’m familiar with that

    Tough situation but Ukraine is independent nation and should do as it people wants without neighboring countries putting pressure on them.