I think the US (read: the military industrial complex and Wall Street) will benefit from this the most eventually, as they have with every war in Europe ever:

"The United States’ role in this tragedy is as much about its relationship with its former imperial rivals, Germany, Italy, and France, as it is about its attempts to weaken Russia. These three powers, and the Europe they lead, incessantly threaten to spin out of the US orbit. Increasingly, they talk of strategic autonomy, while pursuing economic integration with Russia and China, to US dismay. Russian aggression provides the occasion to bind Europe more firmly to the United States, by rallying Europe against Russia through the US instrument of NATO, and pressing the continent to sever some economic ties with Russia. Germany will be expected to cancel the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, to its great disadvantage, since it will lose an inexpensive source of energy, and to the great advantage of the US liquid natural gas industry, which will fill the void with a more expensive product. While certification of the pipeline has only been suspended for now, Washington will continue to pressure Germany to cancel the pipeline altogether. The benefits of Russian aggression against Ukraine for the US investor class are so numerous, that champagne bottles must have popped in Washington and on Wall Street when the Russian president announced the beginning of his country’s military operation in Ukraine. European drift toward the Russian economy is eclipsed. NATO is strengthened, with indubitable benefits in new orders from NATO countries for arms from US weapons makers. Calls for more weapons purchases to bolster the US military will escalate; yesterday, for example, a Wall Street Journal op-ed demanded a naval build up. And the arms industry will run at full-tilt pumping weapons into Ukraine to fuel an insurgency, as Washington fights Russia to the last Ukrainian. Wars for which the United States has not participated except to act as an arms supplier have always been kind to the country’s investors; this one promises to be the same. Finally, Russian military operations, along with Western sanctions, will drain the Russian economy, weakening Russia, or at least stifle its growth, and make it less a formidable US rival. How could Wall Street not look with pleasure upon the prospects?"

For everyone in this thread citing Donbas to criminalize Ukraine: bellingcat.com/news/2022/02/28/exploiting-cadavers-and-faked-ieds-experts-debunk-staged-pre-war-provocation-in-the-donbas

Contains some gory imagery so don’t visit if you’re triggered by that

Lol

1st time I came on ktt for war s***, and I like s*** like this. Props. Depending on where you go for a war update, you can see all kinds of fake news/propanda

Yeah. They just held a Nazi rally that Marjorie Greene spoke at in America.

That makes us ripe for invasion and liberation. RIP us

But isn't that just cost shifting? Profit is an illusion in this scenario because companies ignore the economic, social and environmental toll this takes on US society as a whole.

Well you're right that's the thing about the profit motive, the costs outside of its bottom line don't enter its calculations. The common American people take an L, but those who own the companies that produce weapons and will now sell more of its oil to Europe come away with a big W, at the cost of the American, European and most importantly and most devestatingly, the Ukrainian people.

Nice strawman

Its not strawman bozo. There are racists in every country.

Plenty here. I've seen it with my own eyes. We don't deserve occupation and bombing.

I never said that Ukraine deserves an invasion you smoothbrained idiot

So you just "pointing out facts" eh? Little fact pointer outer guy, you

No, it does have consequences. Namely that I don't want my government to arm and whitewash the Nazi Azov Battalion militia that wants to spread an ideology across Europe that calls for the genocide of people who look like me. If you don't think that's valid, you can respectfully f*** off

That's not the point. The entire point was that America is funding these groups inside a soon-to-be destabilized country.

Think of the last country that we just pulled out of and did the same s*** for the past 4 decades.

Well, I say deal with Azoz's at a later date, when they aren't being bombed and shot at and protecting their homeland.

We should also deal with white militia's in the US. And wherever else they are, which is every country with a white capitalist government. But I digress. Really hoping for peace talks today.

Humans beings really are a disgrace to humanity

How did dealing with the violent extremists later on work out in Afghanistan? They shoulda been dealt with way before, as me and others have said. If Ukraine needs arms, tell them to kick Azov out their military and disavow them. If they're not willing to do that then they're either a more significant part of the resistance than I initially thought, or the government is more sympathetic to Nazism than I was initially lead to believe

In either case, I'm gonna oppose my government arming them, and so should everybody else who doesn't want to see Afghanistan 2.0 but with Nazism instead of Islamic fundamentalism.

When did america start funding azov?

If peace talks dont work out, this will end in a guerilla warzone and Ukraine will be very different for a a long time to come

Russia will win and install a new government that wont be supported by most of the Ukranian population so it can only end like that, esp with an armed population

It's not looking good

The Danish

Ukrain will win