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  • Oct 17, 2024
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    OHMNI

    Team and label often go hand and hand they got no talent so they milk the bread winner

    I’ve seen this happen with my own eyes to probably the most influential artist in Rnb from the 2010s and it’s been paining me since

  • Oct 17, 2024
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    Throkaaa

    I’ve seen this happen with my own eyes to probably the most influential artist in Rnb from the 2010s and it’s been paining me since

    Chance had a manager who was his gos friend who played him and that nigga indie with political connections dad it can happen to anyone

  • Oct 17, 2024
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    OHMNI

    They got no talent so or their artist dropped they got to scramble to next deal so they going to do what gets them the money

    exactly either that or they are doing whatever to make the artist that brought them success or a career happy which might mean turning a blind eye to the things that will help them grow as a human being

  • Oct 17, 2024
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    Throkaaa

    exactly either that or they are doing whatever to make the artist that brought them success or a career happy which might mean turning a blind eye to the things that will help them grow as a human being

    People in here talking 8 figures like that’s common or doesn’t come with a lot

    While hyper a***yzing billboard numbers

    Have to pay all their people

  • Oct 17, 2024
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    OHMNI

    Team and label often go hand and hand they got no talent so they milk the bread winner

    People underestimate how predatory “team” deals are and can because they’re not labels and not seen as scary “big businesses” or don’t have lawyers. It’s not uncommon to see an artist who has a manager they sign early on when they’re just friends who have a ridiculous term sheet saying the manager gets like 25-30% of the artists’s revenue in exchange for managerial duties and promotion. Artist gets big and signs to a label, who wants another 40%. Artist then wonders why tf they have a limitless contract with their manager who’s getting just as much as them with less obligation and work.

  • Oct 17, 2024
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    OHMNI

    Chance had a manager who was his gos friend who played him and that nigga indie with political connections dad it can happen to anyone

    ion know how I feel about the pat sitaution respectfully cause at the same time you can only say and do enough when someone is an adult at the end of the day

    ngl chance def was crashing out in a way that I don’t think is covered enough or understood but kinda put the blame on pat

  • Oct 17, 2024
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    Throkaaa

    ion know how I feel about the pat sitaution respectfully cause at the same time you can only say and do enough when someone is an adult at the end of the day

    ngl chance def was crashing out in a way that I don’t think is covered enough or understood but kinda put the blame on pat

    Oh yeah nigga was / is crashing our more than you know lol

  • Oct 17, 2024
    OHMNI

    Oh yeah nigga was / is crashing our more than you know lol

    that’s what I heard and understood and that’s what hurt his career the most but kinda did pat dirty ngl

  • Oct 17, 2024
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    krishna bound

    People underestimate how predatory “team” deals are and can because they’re not labels and not seen as scary “big businesses” or don’t have lawyers. It’s not uncommon to see an artist who has a manager they sign early on when they’re just friends who have a ridiculous term sheet saying the manager gets like 25-30% of the artists’s revenue in exchange for managerial duties and promotion. Artist gets big and signs to a label, who wants another 40%. Artist then wonders why tf they have a limitless contract with their manager who’s getting just as much as them with less obligation and work.

    Artist get signed off viral songs often not concept albums or something but you popped on Tik tok

  • Oct 17, 2024
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    OHMNI

    Artist get signed off viral songs often not concept albums or something but you popped on Tik tok

    Like honestly a chunk of prob 70% of managers aren’t doing s*** these days it’s a good gig cause they do like 10 mins of work a week it makes sense when you’re small but when you’re big the responsibilities get divided up so much the question starts being why tf is this guy even here

  • Oct 17, 2024
    OHMNI

    People in here talking 8 figures like that’s common or doesn’t come with a lot

    While hyper a***yzing billboard numbers

    Have to pay all their people

    lol imma just say that a manager should probably help an artist build credit and build their business acumen instead of putting a house in their name bc of short term logistical reasons, but that’s why some managers in this game get ahead and can build a roster of star artists and we wonder why artists go flat or don’t reach the heights they should long term

  • Oct 17, 2024
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    krishna bound

    Like honestly a chunk of prob 70% of managers aren’t doing s*** these days it’s a good gig cause they do like 10 mins of work a week it makes sense when you’re small but when you’re big the responsibilities get divided up so much the question starts being why tf is this guy even here

    I got so many DJ friends doing it all themselves management wise winging it cause the cost of a do it all is expensive

  • Oct 17, 2024
    OHMNI

    People in here talking 8 figures like that’s common or doesn’t come with a lot

    While hyper a***yzing billboard numbers

    Have to pay all their people

    but that’s why I like what Brent has done and his manager in general, taught someone how to fish instead of fishing for them

    thus creating an ecosystem where everyone eats

  • Oct 17, 2024
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    krishna bound

    Giving advice is really hard and I never want to sound generic or presumptuous. With that said, the two biggest things (three?) that helped me were targeted low compensation contract work and intensive networking. You have to really know what your end goal is and then remember you can’t replicate how other people got to their positions. Some people look at executives and think they can follow the same path as how they got there. The reality is you gotta think smartly in a business sense of how to gain goodwill and remain independent, almost like a 10 yr plan. Remain diligent and remember connections are everything. It’s not just money, it’s the ability to get things done. Building a portfolio and being able to weasel your way into conversations you think you don’t belong in goes a long way. I wish I could be more specific but it’s really hard. Being smart in business planning and networking is the most important - remember you aren’t just building yourself up you’re building a business/brand you’re just at the masthead of.

    Appreciate it. I’m not coming into it completely blind. Currently working on a project where things may start to take off for me and would like to make the most of it. If you offer any services or anything feel free to reach out

  • Oct 17, 2024
    OHMNI

    I got so many DJ friends doing it all themselves management wise winging it cause the cost of a do it all is expensive

    Management fees are nuts. Used to be awhile ago management would only take money on things they actually could achieve for you themselves as a sort of finders fee but now it’s not uncommon to see them just taking a % of the overall camp’s revenue, which is nuts

  • Oct 17, 2024
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    Cmagneto

    Appreciate it. I’m not coming into it completely blind. Currently working on a project where things may start to take off for me and would like to make the most of it. If you offer any services or anything feel free to reach out

    Can’t promise anything but you can DM me info on it if you want and I can take a look and give advice, even if just casually

  • Oct 17, 2024
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    Predatory behavior all throughout the industry

  • Oct 17, 2024
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    krishna bound

    Can’t promise anything but you can DM me info on it if you want and I can take a look and give advice, even if just casually

    I think you have to follow me back for a DM to be possible

  • Oct 18, 2024
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    OHMNI

    Yall take too much pride in telling people you lack empathy when it’s like congrats nigga

    Some artist just want to drop dope art without fame Stan’s or social media obsession let them have that

    Lmaooo nobody stopped them from doing that they didnt trip and fall into a meeting with a record label

    Wtf

  • Oct 18, 2024
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    browser

    Lmaooo nobody stopped them from doing that they didnt trip and fall into a meeting with a record label

    Wtf

    Ok

  • Oct 18, 2024
    OHMNI

    Ok

    Fasho

  • Oct 18, 2024

    lead to fire music

  • Oct 18, 2024
    browser

    Lmaooo nobody stopped them from doing that they didnt trip and fall into a meeting with a record label

    Wtf

    No ones stopping them from dropping mixtapes while signed either I’d be in that b**** using my studio time to do both, f*** it here ya’ll go until the album ready from these mofos

  • Oct 18, 2024
    Cmagneto

    I think you have to follow me back for a DM to be possible

    Gotcha just did

  • Oct 18, 2024

    business is business