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  • sace 👍
    Jun 30, 2021

    Dang, he's making a podcast for himself and a blu-ray label soon lol

  • Jun 30, 2021
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    cldtrlsslfls56

    Are you really this offended when someone doesn't suggest that Scorsese is the best filmmaker ever and repeat every official opinion out there?

    "tear down respected and loved films simply for the sake of promoting something not talked about as much"

    Tearing down the canon? That's the minimum anyone should do if they really care about cinema.

    I disagree, if someone really cares about cinema, they'd be able to appreciate what someone is doing for the medium rather than talking s*** about it. You hate Scorsese because he's been able to stay great for 40+ years. If he functioned like a Hellman or Flynn and fell tf off after a few hits, I'm sure you'd try to big him up too cuz he obviously wouldn't be as talked about then either.

    Your point about how a "few" critics are the reason for Tarantino or HSS's success is laughable too because even if a few guys got people checking out their work, they gotta still judge the film for themselves at the end of the day. It goes way deeper than just putting someone's name out there.

    I ain't saying lesser known filmmakers can't make great films or anything like that, but just like how one can appreciate somebody making something really weird or creative that is just not for a wide audience, one should also be able to appreciate how someone is able to consistently find ways to make great films and stay relevant because tons of filmmakers have gotten to the level of a Scorsese in the past 40 years, but only a handful have managed to stay at that level. It's actually funny because I feel if we were talking 20-25 years ago, I'm sure you'd give me the entire spiel about how Brian De Palma is so overrated and he makes trash commercial BS like Mission Impossible. But cuz he fell tf off, hes good now. (altho I do f*** hard with The Black Dahlia)

  • Jun 30, 2021
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    Reformed

    I disagree, if someone really cares about cinema, they'd be able to appreciate what someone is doing for the medium rather than talking s*** about it. You hate Scorsese because he's been able to stay great for 40+ years. If he functioned like a Hellman or Flynn and fell tf off after a few hits, I'm sure you'd try to big him up too cuz he obviously wouldn't be as talked about then either.

    Your point about how a "few" critics are the reason for Tarantino or HSS's success is laughable too because even if a few guys got people checking out their work, they gotta still judge the film for themselves at the end of the day. It goes way deeper than just putting someone's name out there.

    I ain't saying lesser known filmmakers can't make great films or anything like that, but just like how one can appreciate somebody making something really weird or creative that is just not for a wide audience, one should also be able to appreciate how someone is able to consistently find ways to make great films and stay relevant because tons of filmmakers have gotten to the level of a Scorsese in the past 40 years, but only a handful have managed to stay at that level. It's actually funny because I feel if we were talking 20-25 years ago, I'm sure you'd give me the entire spiel about how Brian De Palma is so overrated and he makes trash commercial BS like Mission Impossible. But cuz he fell tf off, hes good now. (altho I do f*** hard with The Black Dahlia)

    "Your point about how a "few" critics are the reason for Tarantino or HSS's success is laughable too because even if a few guys got people checking out their work, they gotta still judge the film for themselves at the end of the day. It goes way deeper than just putting someone's name out there." Shouldn't even respond to this one. So critics make continuous efforts, travel all around the world, recognize their talent, produce their films, bring these directors to Cannes, Locarno, etc, but they shoulnd't have the credit because in the end what it matters is that people judge the films for themselves. Wow.

    "It's actually funny because I feel if we were talking 20-25 years ago, I'm sure you'd give me the entire spiel about how Brian De Palma is so overrated and he makes trash commercial BS like Mission Impossible. But cuz he fell tf off, hes good now. (altho I do f*** hard with The Black Dahlia)" Considering how the "commonly thought" reception for these 90s De Palma films (pretty much all masterpieces, one of the best film runs in recent history) was, you'd be the one saying these things.

    You talk about Scorsese as if he was a rapper (influence, what he added to the medium (practically nothing), how he stays on top, bla, bla, bla). I got nothing to add to that. I don't like him, I think he's overrated, I never said I stopped liking him after his commercial success (the comment about the Netflix ad was more about Scorsese than Netflix), and some of his best films are the most "sell-out" ones, like making Color of Money with Tom Cruise. Some other directors with a decade-spanning "important" and "influential" career: Paul Schrader, John Waters, Peter Greenaway, Jorge Furtado, Wes Anderson, Lars von Trier, Thomas Vintenberg, Michael Haneke, Joel & Ethan Coen, Terence Malick, Wim Wenders, Walter Salles, etc...

  • Prez 💎
    Jun 30, 2021

    Scorsese is dope bro but I don’t like all of his films. Tried to watch Silence and couldn’t get through the first 20 minutes. But any director with 10 classics is a legend

  • Jun 30, 2021
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    cldtrlsslfls56

    "Your point about how a "few" critics are the reason for Tarantino or HSS's success is laughable too because even if a few guys got people checking out their work, they gotta still judge the film for themselves at the end of the day. It goes way deeper than just putting someone's name out there." Shouldn't even respond to this one. So critics make continuous efforts, travel all around the world, recognize their talent, produce their films, bring these directors to Cannes, Locarno, etc, but they shoulnd't have the credit because in the end what it matters is that people judge the films for themselves. Wow.

    "It's actually funny because I feel if we were talking 20-25 years ago, I'm sure you'd give me the entire spiel about how Brian De Palma is so overrated and he makes trash commercial BS like Mission Impossible. But cuz he fell tf off, hes good now. (altho I do f*** hard with The Black Dahlia)" Considering how the "commonly thought" reception for these 90s De Palma films (pretty much all masterpieces, one of the best film runs in recent history) was, you'd be the one saying these things.

    You talk about Scorsese as if he was a rapper (influence, what he added to the medium (practically nothing), how he stays on top, bla, bla, bla). I got nothing to add to that. I don't like him, I think he's overrated, I never said I stopped liking him after his commercial success (the comment about the Netflix ad was more about Scorsese than Netflix), and some of his best films are the most "sell-out" ones, like making Color of Money with Tom Cruise. Some other directors with a decade-spanning "important" and "influential" career: Paul Schrader, John Waters, Peter Greenaway, Jorge Furtado, Wes Anderson, Lars von Trier, Thomas Vintenberg, Michael Haneke, Joel & Ethan Coen, Terence Malick, Wim Wenders, Walter Salles, etc...

    Critics make continuous efforts to big up all kinds of directors and films that they see at film festivals. That's great if they like something, but its really the opportunity to get played at film festivals that help these filmmakers. If only one or two critics saw the value in someone, that person would probably never actually become s***. It takes way more, in ways of producers, filmmakers, writers seeing your talent than just someone seeing a movie that has already made it to a film festival and saying its dope. Like you didn't need a critic to tell someone Reservoir Dogs was good, mfers knew that s*** when they saw it at the festival.

    And you're missing my point about De Palma. You the contrarian, not me, so you'd be the one hating on De Palma cuz he was the one that was boomin in the 90s.

    Also, Scorsese is still huge lol. That's why you hating on him. He's managed to be wildly successful in every decade and thats why he gets the praise he gets. He makes the films he wanna make too, he isn't falling back on some franchise to sell. Also ironic you are saying working with Tom Cruise is a sell out move but then you praise Eyes Wide Shut and Mission Impossible. You a hypocrite b

    And whats the point of naming me those filmmakers? I love some of em, dislike some of em, but I can't deny they're all important and influential filmmakers.

  • Jun 30, 2021

    Y’all two still arguing?

  • Jun 30, 2021

    I stopped reading at WOWS being dogshit

  • Jun 30, 2021
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    “are you still going to retire after 10 films

    yes i am

    can you make it that Kill Bill counts as 1 movie”

    joe rogan is a clown lmao

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  • Jun 30, 2021
    minji

    “are you still going to retire after 10 films

    yes i am

    can you make it that Kill Bill counts as 1 movie”

    joe rogan is a clown lmao

    He cool, he just can’t count lol

  • Jun 30, 2021
    minji

    “are you still going to retire after 10 films

    yes i am

    can you make it that Kill Bill counts as 1 movie”

    joe rogan is a clown lmao

    Nigga can’t count lmaooooo

  • Jun 30, 2021

    On rogan he said he’s sticking to the 10 movie thing

    On Maron he said it’s a bit of a running joke and he’s not taking it seriously

    It also sounds like he’s doing another book and a play before the 10th, and has no idea what it’s gonna be yet. so damn we got a wait ahead

    His writing process also sounds so much like how Rick Dalton was in his pool on the float

  • Jun 30, 2021
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    I can say after only getting through the first chapter that the novel is DEFINITELY an expansion of the film and a few things are already significantly different...examples...the meeting between Rick and Marvin that starts the film is in Marvin's office in the novel rather than Musso & Frank...Rick's crying fit happens at the meeting rather than afterwards with Cliff and the conversation is much lengthier going more into Rick's career and personal issues with its trajectory so far

  • Jun 30, 2021
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    This Rogan podcast is so cringe.

    How is Rogan so popular

  • Jun 30, 2021
    mentalcase420

    I can say after only getting through the first chapter that the novel is DEFINITELY an expansion of the film and a few things are already significantly different...examples...the meeting between Rick and Marvin that starts the film is in Marvin's office in the novel rather than Musso & Frank...Rick's crying fit happens at the meeting rather than afterwards with Cliff and the conversation is much lengthier going more into Rick's career and personal issues with its trajectory so far

    @HeyFella

  • Jun 30, 2021
    Baby Goat

    Idk how he is talking about Scorsese's worst movies while praising Hellman who has Silent Night Deadly Night 3 under his belt

    tbf Boxcar Bertha is absolute trash

  • Jun 30, 2021
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    ThomFork

    This Rogan podcast is so cringe.

    How is Rogan so popular

    He hosts the biggest podcast in the world

  • Jun 30, 2021
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    ThomFork

    This Rogan podcast is so cringe.

    How is Rogan so popular

    Idk I thought it was a pretty pleasant listen. I didn’t cringe much.

  • Jun 30, 2021
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    AKFresh

    He hosts the biggest podcast in the world

    oh i'm aware. it's just baffling to me considering his questionable politics and very...simple views on artistic stuff.

    Well...now that i literally type that out and think about it, that does sound like what the world has too lmao

  • Jun 30, 2021
    ThomFork

    oh i'm aware. it's just baffling to me considering his questionable politics and very...simple views on artistic stuff.

    Well...now that i literally type that out and think about it, that does sound like what the world has too lmao

    Sounds like you got it figured out

  • Jun 30, 2021
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    ThomFork

    This Rogan podcast is so cringe.

    How is Rogan so popular

    his fanbase is hella white boys that drink mountain dew and complain about snowflake liberals

  • Jun 30, 2021
    Reformed

    Critics make continuous efforts to big up all kinds of directors and films that they see at film festivals. That's great if they like something, but its really the opportunity to get played at film festivals that help these filmmakers. If only one or two critics saw the value in someone, that person would probably never actually become s***. It takes way more, in ways of producers, filmmakers, writers seeing your talent than just someone seeing a movie that has already made it to a film festival and saying its dope. Like you didn't need a critic to tell someone Reservoir Dogs was good, mfers knew that s*** when they saw it at the festival.

    And you're missing my point about De Palma. You the contrarian, not me, so you'd be the one hating on De Palma cuz he was the one that was boomin in the 90s.

    Also, Scorsese is still huge lol. That's why you hating on him. He's managed to be wildly successful in every decade and thats why he gets the praise he gets. He makes the films he wanna make too, he isn't falling back on some franchise to sell. Also ironic you are saying working with Tom Cruise is a sell out move but then you praise Eyes Wide Shut and Mission Impossible. You a hypocrite b

    And whats the point of naming me those filmmakers? I love some of em, dislike some of em, but I can't deny they're all important and influential filmmakers.

    I guess these filmmakers are supposed to be bad filmmakers.

    Not knocking Pedro Costa but I think that many of those are either on his level, slight better, or slightly below.

    Also, I like Color of Money but one of Scorsese's best films? It's one of his more "restrained" aka generic films. Less creativity, a bit lightweight etc..

  • Jun 30, 2021
    Fella

    Idk I thought it was a pretty pleasant listen. I didn’t cringe much.

  • Jun 30, 2021
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    SegaDreamFlash

    his fanbase is hella white boys that drink mountain dew and complain about snowflake liberals

    I mean his fanbase is a good portion of the world based on the numbers alone. I know people of all walks of life that like Joe Rogan. The idea that’s it just right wing meat heads has always been crazy.

  • Fella

    I mean his fanbase is a good portion of the world based on the numbers alone. I know people of all walks of life that like Joe Rogan. The idea that’s it just right wing meat heads has always been crazy.

    thats fair, this just been my experience tbh

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