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  • Jul 15, 2020
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    DonutHole

    Would make certain things easier for sure

    we do

    ktt2.com/messages

    you have to follow the person you want to message though

  • Jul 15, 2020
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    VOTE FOR KANYE

    we do

    ktt2.com/messages

    you have to follow the person you want to message though

  • Jul 15, 2020
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    DonutHole

    go to my profile. then click the "...." youll see an option to send a message

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    VOTE FOR KANYE

    go to my profile. then click the "...." youll see an option to send a message

    thanks fam

    Also love the fact that Crackhead Dave chapelle (biggums in your avy) helped out Prince Dave Chapelle (my avy)

  • Jul 15, 2020
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    DonutHole

    My general point was that any race could have been the one to do all of this and that within them all had a strong potential for being driven by racial superiority, religious superiority or any other factor that would divide people.

    I think that you're downplaying history and western philosophy that laid the grounds for white supremacist imperialisme
    One thing I found out is that it was never the idea of one person, there's a heritage there (German romanticism movement, enlightenment movement, pseudoscientific quests etc)
    These movement didn't exist (to my knowledge) in Africa
    The claim that any other culture would have done what the West has isn't really accurate and is downplaying history
    "Tribes" (all over the world) partook in "tribal wars" and empires have been a thing since ancient times,
    however the West rationalized ways to make that happen for them on a global scale) technology permitted them to sail across the Atlantic etc)
    The west took innovation in fleets, harvesting, machinery, science to dominate the world (slavery, colonies, raging capitalisme, racial supremacy, mysogynie,...) forgoing a principle set by the enlightened thinkers - humanism

    wow it’s almost as if you all just do not understand my point and want to argue with me. I’m not downplaying anything. I am saying that this- you know what i’m not even gonna continue this conversation, you’ll
    literally ignore my point again

    @Emery_2 this is what I'm talking about just for reference
    I really don't know what happened before in thz thread but I want to just know what your point was, that's all.

    My response was made in a moment of annoyance.

    It wasn’t meant to be antagonistic or anything if that’s how it came off, but i wanna clarify that while it may come off to some people like i was downplaying the damage white people have caused throughout all of history, the intentions of every post made was to essentially say that literally every race had the capabilities at least within animalistic nature to be as vile.

    Since at the end of the day we are all Human, that’s it.

  • Jul 15, 2020
    Smoofer

    We need DMs on this site lol

    RE F***ING TWEET

  • Jul 15, 2020
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    Emery Atreides

    My response was made in a moment of annoyance.

    It wasn’t meant to be antagonistic or anything if that’s how it came off, but i wanna clarify that while it may come off to some people like i was downplaying the damage white people have caused throughout all of history, the intentions of every post made was to essentially say that literally every race had the capabilities at least within animalistic nature to be as vile.

    Since at the end of the day we are all Human, that’s it.

    Thanks for replying
    I didn't mean you by "antagonizing replies", I actually feel like your response was a response to that.

    To your point, you're right, human nature can be that malevolent however my point was to expose other factors that aided/caused western imperialism
    We essentially agree but were arguing different points
    A classic case of quiproquo

  • DonutHole

    Thanks for replying
    I didn't mean you by "antagonizing replies", I actually feel like your response was a response to that.

    To your point, you're right, human nature can be that malevolent however my point was to expose other factors that aided/caused western imperialism
    We essentially agree but were arguing different points
    A classic case of quiproquo

    It’s fine. I was just trying to lead credence to Nick Cannon’s mindset on how white people became more aggressive colonizers while at the same time acknowledging the very real possibility that this could have happened to be any other race/culture.

    and i agree with everything that you pointed out.

  • Jul 15, 2020
    Smoofer

    We need DMs on this site lol

    we have them lol

  • fun

    The main problem is white people who deny the severity of racism (mainly torys but not exclusively). To them, accusing people of racism is a bigger issue than racism itself. Lots of people don't understand the long lasting effects of systemic racism and how it still affects people to this day, they think racism ended with the abolishment of slavery.

    You don't have to be ashamed of having white skin but should recognize your privilege in society and show sympathy towards minorities. Remember, getting called a c***on the internet is infinitely better than having your ancestors raped, enslaved, and killed.

    this is a good way of looking at things.

    although i would be lying if i were to say that i have had any real sense of pride in my culture for lack of a better word
    That often comes with a very real sense of guilt & sadness.

    a lack of true identity.

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