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  • If melon says it's not dying it is dying

  • It’s dead and it’s for the better

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    Tierra Whack, Navy Blue, clipping, Doechii, Earl & Mike, Rico Nasty, Kendrick, Rapsody, McKinley Dixon, Noname, open mike eagle, Saba & No ID, Vince staples, Flo milli, Little Simz, etc. have all dropped great projects in recent years. You just have dogshit taste if you think hip-hop is dying.

  • Thank you white man

  • I wouldn’t say dead, but it is diminishing returns. For example Jungle Brothers -> Tribe/De La -> Mos/Dilla and Kanye….you see a trajectory and building off of previous benchmarks and pushing it to new frontiers, but you can hear the roots of it and something new built on a foundation.

    Today, I feel like even the folks who are influenced by my faves who I should like don’t eclipse them or come close to it. Could be generational bias. But I just find myself thinking ___ did it better anyways so this doesn’t really stick for me.

  • Palestinian Oozi

    I wouldn’t say dead, but it is diminishing returns. For example Jungle Brothers -> Tribe/De La -> Mos/Dilla and Kanye….you see a trajectory and building off of previous benchmarks and pushing it to new frontiers, but you can hear the roots of it and something new built on a foundation.

    Today, I feel like even the folks who are influenced by my faves who I should like don’t eclipse them or come close to it. Could be generational bias. But I just find myself thinking ___ did it better anyways so this doesn’t really stick for me.

    Every generation thinks this, don’t worry

  • Three Meows Mór

    Every generation thinks this, don’t worry

    unironically this time its different though lol

    what if every generation thought like this to this current boiling point to a place of no return. Hell you could relatively say each generation that felt like this was at a place of no return considering this is where we ended up. The people who were hating on hair metal or hating on linkin park relatively werent wrong given where actual rock music went lmao

  • I keep thinking this or is it cos I’m getting older

  • love how we recognised as a community that there's so much music to listen to even if a type of rap feels like its stagnant and you go straight to the white man to justify that take

    you are a second hand thinker.

  • f*** you op

  • what metrics ppl use to say it's dying? (can't watch the video rn)

  • They’ve been saying hip hop is dead since 2006 gotta let it go at some point.

    The genre is in a great place, I think that with how music consumption has changed over the last decade, you’ll never get another Drake/Kendrick/Cole artist in terms of commercial success again. That could be said about any genre to be honest.

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    Three Meows Mór

    Every generation thinks this, don’t worry

    We grew up with kast jayz Kanye TI jeezy 50 Dre em

    And we were hype as hell for Kendrick drake krit future rocky odd future frank weeknd

  • Jim Halpert

    We grew up with kast jayz Kanye TI jeezy 50 Dre em

    And we were hype as hell for Kendrick drake krit future rocky odd future frank weeknd

    Yup that’s your generation

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    FD signifier
    ShawnCee
    Imdontai (might not be spelling it right)

    Although signifier the only one with as big of a channel

    First nigga just annoying
    Second nigga literally started his YouTube channel as a “Fantano clone”
    Dontai cool I guess

    But niggas never gonna get big actually talking about music white people want white opinions

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    FD signifier
    ShawnCee
    Imdontai (might not be spelling it right)

    Although signifier the only one with as big of a channel

    shawncee

  • Three Meows Mór

    Yup that’s your generation

    Yeah your point was every generation thinks the next one is ass and my point is we did not think that

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    the people saying that hip hop is in a good place im almost certain didnt experience the height of 2000s and early 2010/ hip hop. nobody is saying there arent dope records coming out by hip hop artist its just the cultural zeitgeist is dwindling and we arent seeing prolific artist anymore.

    for almost 25 years hip hop was creating some of the strongest pieces of modern culture. complete paradigm shifts when certain artist came out

    but this is really just another monoculture conversation because this could possibly apply to all genres and creative mediums.

  • Jakarta Connect

    the people saying that hip hop is in a good place im almost certain didnt experience the height of 2000s and early 2010/ hip hop. nobody is saying there arent dope records coming out by hip hop artist its just the cultural zeitgeist is dwindling and we arent seeing prolific artist anymore.

    for almost 25 years hip hop was creating some of the strongest pieces of modern culture. complete paradigm shifts when certain artist came out

    but this is really just another monoculture conversation because this could possibly apply to all genres and creative mediums.

    It could

    Streaming tv movies and music has trained people to view those mediums as background content so the art has been affected in that way.

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    Jim Halpert

    It could

    Streaming tv movies and music has trained people to view those mediums as background content so the art has been affected in that way.

    GTA the last monocultural moment

  • Jakarta Connect

    GTA the last monocultural moment

    Maybe. Odyssey is one right now in theaters too.

    Really just mass participation in event level s*** is what they are trying to eliminate.

  • Jim Halpert

    Maybe. Odyssey is one right now in theaters too.

    Really just mass participation in event level s*** is what they are trying to eliminate.

    I feel like anything Christopher Nolan is semi-monocultural but more so for film and literature heads. Everybody and their mamas gonna be talking about GTA6.

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    the experience of finding new music sucks now days and i just thought recently that theres never been a time in history where music is so accessible. Its literally cheaper than water. And the access to entry is 100x easier

    you know how difficult it was for a rapper to make and break a record up until 2012?

    music is basically background music at this point

  • same topic, same 'arguments', same guy everyone supposedly hates

    yall loooooove going in circles like a bunch of donkeys

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    FD signifier
    ShawnCee
    Imdontai (might not be spelling it right)

    Although signifier the only one with as big of a channel

    fd signifier is a moron and his music knowledge and taste is completely irrelevant and not even close to be an alternative

    shawn cee is doing his thing also this is probably the first time someone mentioned shawn cee in any positive light in the last however many years

    the last guy you mentioned aint made a video in two years

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