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  • Jan 20
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    goretex
    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QOwrwNX4v4

    this is literally just max b and lil b combined

    Pap is Max B Lil B and Jadakiss

    Like nigga is legit insanely lyrical

  • Jan 20
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    goretex

    and all them niggas was wetarded

    Hell nah. I f*** with Soulja boy but he always been a biter from day one.

    When he first came out it was OJ Da Juice Man and Gucci, then it was Lil B, then Chicago, then Atlanta, etc

  • goretex 💁🏽‍♂️
    Jan 20
    mr get dough

    Definitely Rakim i know they was looking at that nigga like a f***ing alien

    But another nigga who was rapping just as good at the time but never gets mentioned in that convo for upping the bar for lyricism was Ice Cube

    !!!!

  • goretex 💁🏽‍♂️
    Jan 20
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    mr get dough

    Pap is Max B Lil B and Jadakiss

    Like nigga is legit insanely lyrical

    nah fr

  • Jan 20
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    internet buddy

    Slick Rick
    Rakim

    loddi doddi hills and hills pills with the hills every fish has gills

  • Jan 20
    tomorrow volverse

    Max B & Lil B are the predecessors of Neph

    Neph is a lot different than Max B imo

    I def get Max B and Pap though

    Pap the new Max B dead ass

  • Jan 20
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    John Mauve

    Dare I say xxxtentacion (not a fan btw)

    Definitely feel there were terrible rappers who beat women before XXXTentacion

  • Smacked Voodoo

    Definitely feel there were terrible rappers who beat women before XXXTentacion

    Kid Cudi fathered many of these emo rappers anyway.

  • Jan 20
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    goretex

    nah fr

    Rakim raised the bar but Ice Cube was rapping at an elite level in 88/89

    So was Chuck D actually that nigga was going stupid i just think they get left out bc they was in groups

  • goretex 💁🏽‍♂️
    Jan 20
    mr get dough

    Rakim raised the bar but Ice Cube was rapping at an elite level in 88/89

    So was Chuck D actually that nigga was going stupid i just think they get left out bc they was in groups

    man them PE beats and songs still fresh man, i still get goose bumps

  • goretex 💁🏽‍♂️
    Jan 20
    Free YoungBoy

    Hell nah. I f*** with Soulja boy but he always been a biter from day one.

    When he first came out it was OJ Da Juice Man and Gucci, then it was Lil B, then Chicago, then Atlanta, etc

    i mean yea but that original soulja boy is 1 of 1 man no one was doing choreography painting on they shades and wearing fake bapes and producing their own music

  • Jan 20
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    A lot of good mentions here

    I would definitely argue that the arrival of KRS One was game changing. Hip Hop was already street adjacent but he definitely brought an earthly, grassroots sound to the culture that wasn't seen before.

    His stage presence is another aspect that has set the standard for many other Hip Hop artists in regards to performing.

    In Addition, even though he wasn't purely Jamaican. His inspiration from Dancehall bled through the music and played a role in the genre's connection and fusion with the Carribbean world.

    Without this man, there is probably no Common, D.I.T.C, Camp Lo, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Soundbombing, and many more artists

  • Jan 20
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  • Ultramagnetic MC's are also up there too. They are the forerunners and spearheaders of Alternative Hip Hop. They were left field in their delivery choices, production, and content.

    There is no Native Tounges, The Neptunes, Missy Elliot, and more. Without their contributions.

  • bigpig

    loddi doddi hills and hills pills with the hills every fish has gills

    What u talmbout?

  • Jan 20
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    Mac Dre

  • Fugees

    Would like to be proven wrong but I think they hit the scene hard

    The Score is still one of the greatest rap albums till this day

  • inspoeater

    Slick Rick is another one who I specifically think of all the time with how his style captivated a rap game without much pop/“hit” precedent

    And you can hear his direct DNA (in like a Quavo/Future/Thug influence the rest of their peers sense) in Biggie, Snoop, Fresh Prince

    He definitely influenced Snoop's "pimp" rapping and flow

  • BRAVE

    None of this generation of rappers as it stands

    DMX might objectively be the last (major) pure one tho overall, given you can highly argue that all the “new” top guys after were the someone else prior of their generation just with a new twist, ie Ja Rule/Em/Nelly/50/Ye/Wayne/Nicki/Keef/Drake/Kendrick

    My criteria for it is could the inspiration make the songs that the inspired made

    Gucci and Wayne could make a lot of songs Keef and Thug did but Hov would never make most of what Wayne did. Same for Pac/Outkast/Tribe/Ma$e and Ye

  • BRAVE

    Well if we’re being loose with it then we can just name everyone with obvious influences who did their own new thing with it tbh. Like Drake for example; he invented a new lane of Rap-r&b and a genre-songwriting device of melodic hard rapping in an entire section into straight singing for another section then soft melodic rapping in the next section.

    This is another one i thought about

    Imo until take care you could have got “Drake” from Joe Budden/Hov/Phonte on a song for CS era or Wayne/Hov/Ye on a song for SFG TML era

    Again you cant really do that with Ye or Wayne

  • Amir Karim

    Kid Cudi when he first came out was refreshing as hell. Especially before he got signed to GOOD music. There was something so raw and fresh about dude. This video made me a fan

    !https://youtu.be/RieuJmpzQeA?si=ukS7VsFwrZEmGrRn

    Perfect example of what i mean. There isnt really anyone who could have made that music before him

  • bigpig

    loddi doddi hills and hills pills with the hills every fish has gills

    Except in 1984 this is Wayne or Migo tier of flow innovation when s*** like Run DMC and Kurtis Blow is the wave lol

    Which is why the flow u parodying literally fathered BIG and Snoop lol

  • Jan 20
    krishna bound

    it's a shame he ended up as the human manifestation of reddit because in his early career he genuinely pushed the genre forward in a number of hugely positive and experimental ways

    His production hasn't been the best since RTJ1 but he still has some gems here and there

    RTJ should've been a two album thing at most. I hope he drops a solo album sometime soon with a return to form