this is literally just max b and lil b combined
Pap is Max B Lil B and Jadakiss
Like nigga is legit insanely lyrical
and all them niggas was wetarded
Hell nah. I f*** with Soulja boy but he always been a biter from day one.
When he first came out it was OJ Da Juice Man and Gucci, then it was Lil B, then Chicago, then Atlanta, etc
Definitely Rakim i know they was looking at that nigga like a f***ing alien
But another nigga who was rapping just as good at the time but never gets mentioned in that convo for upping the bar for lyricism was Ice Cube
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Pap is Max B Lil B and Jadakiss
Like nigga is legit insanely lyrical
nah fr
Slick Rick
Rakim
loddi doddi hills and hills pills with the hills every fish has gills
Max B & Lil B are the predecessors of Neph
Neph is a lot different than Max B imo
I def get Max B and Pap though
Pap the new Max B dead ass
Dare I say xxxtentacion (not a fan btw)
Definitely feel there were terrible rappers who beat women before XXXTentacion
Definitely feel there were terrible rappers who beat women before XXXTentacion
Kid Cudi fathered many of these emo rappers anyway.
nah fr
Rakim raised the bar but Ice Cube was rapping at an elite level in 88/89
So was Chuck D actually that nigga was going stupid i just think they get left out bc they was in groups
Rakim raised the bar but Ice Cube was rapping at an elite level in 88/89
So was Chuck D actually that nigga was going stupid i just think they get left out bc they was in groups
man them PE beats and songs still fresh man, i still get goose bumps
Hell nah. I f*** with Soulja boy but he always been a biter from day one.
When he first came out it was OJ Da Juice Man and Gucci, then it was Lil B, then Chicago, then Atlanta, etc
i mean yea but that original soulja boy is 1 of 1 man no one was doing choreography painting on they shades and wearing fake bapes and producing their own music
A lot of good mentions here
I would definitely argue that the arrival of KRS One was game changing. Hip Hop was already street adjacent but he definitely brought an earthly, grassroots sound to the culture that wasn't seen before.
His stage presence is another aspect that has set the standard for many other Hip Hop artists in regards to performing.
In Addition, even though he wasn't purely Jamaican. His inspiration from Dancehall bled through the music and played a role in the genre's connection and fusion with the Carribbean world.
Without this man, there is probably no Common, D.I.T.C, Camp Lo, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Soundbombing, and many more artists
Ultramagnetic MC's are also up there too. They are the forerunners and spearheaders of Alternative Hip Hop. They were left field in their delivery choices, production, and content.
There is no Native Tounges, The Neptunes, Missy Elliot, and more. Without their contributions.
Fugees
Would like to be proven wrong but I think they hit the scene hard
The Score is still one of the greatest rap albums till this day
Slick Rick is another one who I specifically think of all the time with how his style captivated a rap game without much pop/“hit” precedent
And you can hear his direct DNA (in like a Quavo/Future/Thug influence the rest of their peers sense) in Biggie, Snoop, Fresh Prince
He definitely influenced Snoop's "pimp" rapping and flow
None of this generation of rappers as it stands
DMX might objectively be the last (major) pure one tho overall, given you can highly argue that all the “new” top guys after were the someone else prior of their generation just with a new twist, ie Ja Rule/Em/Nelly/50/Ye/Wayne/Nicki/Keef/Drake/Kendrick
My criteria for it is could the inspiration make the songs that the inspired made
Gucci and Wayne could make a lot of songs Keef and Thug did but Hov would never make most of what Wayne did. Same for Pac/Outkast/Tribe/Ma$e and Ye
Well if we’re being loose with it then we can just name everyone with obvious influences who did their own new thing with it tbh. Like Drake for example; he invented a new lane of Rap-r&b and a genre-songwriting device of melodic hard rapping in an entire section into straight singing for another section then soft melodic rapping in the next section.
This is another one i thought about
Imo until take care you could have got “Drake” from Joe Budden/Hov/Phonte on a song for CS era or Wayne/Hov/Ye on a song for SFG TML era
Again you cant really do that with Ye or Wayne
Kid Cudi when he first came out was refreshing as hell. Especially before he got signed to GOOD music. There was something so raw and fresh about dude. This video made me a fan
!https://youtu.be/RieuJmpzQeA?si=ukS7VsFwrZEmGrRnPerfect example of what i mean. There isnt really anyone who could have made that music before him
loddi doddi hills and hills pills with the hills every fish has gills
Except in 1984 this is Wayne or Migo tier of flow innovation when s*** like Run DMC and Kurtis Blow is the wave lol
Which is why the flow u parodying literally fathered BIG and Snoop lol
it's a shame he ended up as the human manifestation of reddit because in his early career he genuinely pushed the genre forward in a number of hugely positive and experimental ways
His production hasn't been the best since RTJ1 but he still has some gems here and there
RTJ should've been a two album thing at most. I hope he drops a solo album sometime soon with a return to form