i still hate that s*** to this day
it’s such a f*** you to the episode 7 ending and a horrid start

I feel bad for hardcore fans of this franchise yall got done dirty

Definitely but I think that moment was needed to show Luke was serious about it and really drive the point home. But then for some reason in post they decided to cut the music out there and treat it like a comedic moment even tho Rian said that's not what they were going for, stupid thing to do!

finn wouldnt be in them

I like TLJ but Rian did things that were unnecessary. He brought Rey and Kylo together and had them kill Snoke, just to end it how it started anyway

So take Chewbacca out and nothing changes either then

He made Luke an actual character instead of a plot device lol. Wish JJ would’ve done the same with Rey.

pretty sure chewie saved han once or twice in TFA

I’m pretty sure at the start of the movie Finn is the one who boulders the TIE fighters and saves the Falcon

Rian did Luke hella dirty and changing his character after all these movies was terrible. Not to mention, Luke tossing his lightsaber was f***ing terrible

Luke was an actual character before TLJ

Lol I wasn't trying to say Fiinn doesn't matter

I know lmao I’m just pointing it out

That sequence was brilliant. You get a parallel of Vader killing the Emperor, but instead of the redemption scene that we were expecting Rian pulled out the “rule the galaxy as father and son” parallel and made Kylo go full villain. Kylo was the most interesting character in this trilogy by far and he would’ve been excellent as the main villain, but JJ didn’t have the creativity to pull it off so he wasted his character for a predictable and poorly executed redemption arc.

Finn also is the person who literally saved everyone at the end when blowing up the signal didn’t work the first time. He’s the one who knew it was coming from the main ship instead

which reminds me, there's a lot in this film that hints at Finn being FS.

The movie ends where it started. Nobody gets character development except Luke, the one person who didn’t need it. Finn is the same person, Rey is the same, Kylo is the same, Poe is the same

Yeah it sealed it for me when he felt Rey die

what ??

Absolutely not true

I think regardless of which of the 3 movies you liked or didn't like we can all agree Disney was playing things way too safe with this trilogy

They allowed way more risks with their Marvel properties

King Rian didn't but everyone s*** on him so they played it safe again

Rey and Kylo get some with the force bond s*** tbh. But Poe and Finn literally do nothing that movie

Kylo wasn’t the same. He was more unhinged, he had become the supreme leader, and was primed to become the main antagonist of the trilogy. Rey and Poe were definitely fleshed out more as well. I agree that Rian didn’t do much with Finn, but they all should’ve been given more personality since their introduction.