Vega

4y

No thriller

Bmezy

4y

nigga are you serious. Ural, one of the staffers from mf Hiphop dx drew a weak parallel from one Malcolm X quote concerning black women (and Beyonce's black feminism peaked in 2014, she had several classes concerning her feminism as it pertains to black women during that time) to Kendrick's TPAB and you cite that as her artistic direction being inspired by his album. the same with a one-liner similarity in theme from the vox article.

it's funny how you only find this link on hiphop based/centric websites where they can only talk/analyze pop music when being compared under the lense of a male hiphop counterpart.
It's almost like you typed in the keywords "beyonce lemonade kendrick to pimp a butterfly" in google and hit search.. Matter fact that's exactly what you did seeing as how your two 'sources' are the ones that come up. then you skimmed the article until you could find some vague link between the two (the same one could find a similarity in theme/tone if they searched Lil Nas X and Frank Ocean together) .. you're so f***ing lazy, bro lmao

Vega

4y

No thriller

DonutHole

4y

I'm not the only who thinks this.... I'm not the only one who sees the similarities
There needs to be more research done ofc this but it's obvious for most people I'd say

I'd like for more reputable sources to investigate it too

That being said - you have nothing to disprove it either

Kendrick lamar is the reference for commercially successful woke album of last decade - beyonce came after. Period.

Bmezy

4y

you're literally trying to force a narrative where there is none to be found. There are literally no other articles that draw any real comparisions between the two records on such a scale as to imply that Beyonce was actually inspired by that album or its art direction. Nothing. Simply surface level, vague correlations based on common themes concerning black liberation.. It's less about Beyonce being inspired by Kendrick and moreso about the art being directly juxtaposed with the tumultuous times being reflected through the music culture in GENERAL.

That's like saying Stevie Wonder's Innervisions released in 1973 w/tracks like Visions, Higher Ground, Jesus Save America and Don't You Worry Bout a Thing was a direct result and inspired by Marvin Gaye's What's Going On released in 1971 just because both had themes tackling social justice and reform.. when in all actuality the culture at large during the time had a renaissance in 'Black Power' ...discussing and dealing with systemic racism and discrimination, black empowerment and poverty in black communities/adjusting to immigration in the late 60s/early 70s. Marvin's songs (What's Going On, What's Happening Brother, Inner City Blues and Wholy Holy) being released first had no real influence on Stevie Just because both had similar themes.

DonutHole

4y

Kendrick did it first got critically acclaimed for it and saw commercial succes
Then came beyonce with a similar style (music videos style , narration, poems) and subject matter
It's not rocket science

There's many ways one could approach the topic of black liberation, beyonce followed kdot's blue print imo

Idk why you're defending beyonce when she most likely didn't make the album herself - there isn't any artistic integrity to attack here. If you want you can believe that it was all purely her vision but I'm not convinced nor is anyone with a working pair of eyes and ears lol

Bmezy

4y

bro, you cannot dismiss the clear examples of cultural impact in politics, education, comicbooks across various spectrums of media

to where she had police boycotting her and getting the nation of f***ing islam to offer security among other things like massive conversations in different spaces and mediums ..just brushing it off as if it's nothing.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/20/arts/music/beyonce-concert-boycotted-by-police-group-over-halftime-show.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2016/02/23/farrakhan-beyonce-doesnt-need-police-protection-nation-of-islam-has-her-back/

had politicians going crazy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnWV6IaxwEM

Also here's a few college courses/studies.. all for Formation/Lemonade by the way..

https://www.harvard.com/book/the_lemonade_reader_beyonce_black_feminism_and_spirituality/

https://www.english.upenn.edu/courses/undergraduate/2017/spring/engl200.306

https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/education/article/UTSA-offering-class-on-Beyonce-s-Lemonade-album-9297817.php

https://www.businessinsider.com/this-university-is-offering-a-class-all-about-beyonc-2017-9

https://www.yesmagazine.org/democracy/2017/12/06/yep-theyre-teaching-beyonce-in-college-these-days

on top of being one of the most acclaimed albums/videos of the decades ..check all the decade-end lists and one of the most awarded videos of all time

Lemonade also received a Peabody Award, one of the most coveted awards for digital media.

2ILL

4y

How’d they forget this???

Theory

4y

Man I do not remember Formation being this big at all lmao

BlueDream

4y

Why is this thread acting like This Is America is being ranked as a song instead of for the video ?

Do I think it should be ranked over MJ? no . But idk why people are acting like the video isn't really great

Theory

4y

Man I do not remember Formation being this big at all lmao