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  • rvi 🐸
    Nov 18, 2020

    thank you for informing me about what these random twitter users are saying

  • Nov 18, 2020
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    sonyatv

    how about the incentive to stop a deadly virus ??

    And who's going to fund the operation?

    The concept behind capitalism is that entrepreneurs invest in something with the potential to make profit.

    You saying the wealthy are gonna invest in a pharma company to save lives and let their money just disappear away?

  • Nov 18, 2020
    Smoofer

    Also the US govt gave moderna $1B lol

    free market strikes again

  • Nov 18, 2020
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    HNdRXX7

    And who's going to fund the operation?

    The concept behind capitalism is that entrepreneurs invest in something with the potential to make profit.

    You saying the wealthy are gonna invest in a pharma company to save lives and let their money just disappear away?

    why should the resources necessary to create an essential vaccine be dependent on the charity of the ultra wealthy ... ?

  • Nov 18, 2020
    coltrup

    why should the resources necessary to create an essential vaccine be dependent on the charity of the ultra wealthy ... ?

    And what's your supposed alternative?

  • HURRY UP sab 🧔🏻
    Nov 18, 2020
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    GIO GIO

    Banning (censoring) people cause they support capitalism and disagree with socialism. I remember how this one turned out. This site is a f***ing joke lmao

    definitely not why. there’s plenty of people who support capitalism on here, but this guy in particular made it his entire identity to the point where the only two logical explanations for his behavior are he’s either a paid shill (which he’s denied) or he’s just a massive troll. either one is a ticket out of here. i warned him to tone it down with the shilling/trolling on here & all he did was change his name to something equally as shillish/trollish. every thread he’s in, he gets called out for being an obvious shill.

    he wasn’t banned for his political views, but his behavior in presenting them promoted the spread of misinformation and clear data manipulation whenever he posted.

  • HURRY UP sab 🧔🏻
    Nov 18, 2020
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    HNdRXX7

    And who's going to fund the operation?

    The concept behind capitalism is that entrepreneurs invest in something with the potential to make profit.

    You saying the wealthy are gonna invest in a pharma company to save lives and let their money just disappear away?

    if capitalism wasn’t in place, entrepreneurs wouldn’t need to invest in the first place for vaccine research to be done.. that’s kinda the whole point

  • Nov 18, 2020
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    HURRY UP sab

    if capitalism wasn’t in place, entrepreneurs wouldn’t need to invest in the first place for vaccine research to be done.. that’s kinda the whole point

    Ya'll really can't answer a basic question

    Who's going to fund the operation?

  • HURRY UP sab 🧔🏻
    Nov 18, 2020
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    HNdRXX7

    Ya'll really can't answer a basic question

    Who's going to fund the operation?

    funding wouldn’t be an issue so your question is irrelevant.. i know it’s difficult to imagine when you’re so used to a capitalist system, but not every system is centered around the accumulation of wealth.

  • Nov 18, 2020
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    HURRY UP sab

    funding wouldn’t be an issue so your question is irrelevant.. i know it’s difficult to imagine when you’re so used to a capitalist system, but not every system is centered around the accumulation of wealth.

    So in your system, I assume the government would then control and own everything, since there can be no accumulation of wealth? So communism, except put in a nicer way

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    Nov 18, 2020
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    HNdRXX7

    So in your system, I assume the government would then control and own everything, since there can be no accumulation of wealth? So communism, except put in a nicer way

  • Nov 18, 2020
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    HURRY UP sab
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    Welp, if you're really promoting communism as a better system, then my input will stop here. You should probably do some study on history and how capitalism has far surpassed communism, and that communism sets everyone up for a life without opportunity to succeed.

  • HURRY UP sab 🧔🏻
    Nov 18, 2020
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    HNdRXX7

    Welp, if you're really promoting communism as a better system, then my input will stop here. You should probably do some study on history and how capitalism has far surpassed communism, and that communism sets everyone up for a life without opportunity to succeed.

    i haven’t done enough reading on communism to call myself a communist specifically, but i’ve done enough to know i’d prefer that to the current capitalist system

    you should read up on it too & purge yourself of the capitalist propaganda you’ve been indoctrinated with

  • Nov 18, 2020
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    HURRY UP sab

    i haven’t done enough reading on communism to call myself a communist specifically, but i’ve done enough to know i’d prefer that to the current capitalist system

    you should read up on it too & purge yourself of the capitalist propaganda you’ve been indoctrinated with

    I read into Marx' philosophy and actually agreed with some statements a lot, and hate when people bash others as Marxists. But on a whole I just can't agree with a modern society that would replicate this.

    However my main inspiration is Milton Friedman, he's got plenty of youtube videos online if you wanna hear the other side. He's a full on libertarian who believes in the free market, and gives really good viewpoints.

  • HURRY UP sab 🧔🏻
    Nov 18, 2020
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    HNdRXX7

    I read into Marx' philosophy and actually agreed with some statements a lot, and hate when people bash others as Marxists. But on a whole I just can't agree with a modern society that would replicate this.

    However my main inspiration is Milton Friedman, he's got plenty of youtube videos online if you wanna hear the other side. He's a full on libertarian who believes in the free market, and gives really good viewpoints.

    most people i’ve interacted with who speak fondly of communism identify as Marxist-Leninist-Maoists. they always stress how a lot of Marx’s ideas don’t really work too well, so i can understand why you’d disagree with just Orthodox Marxism

    i have an old roommate who’s a hardcore libertarian & we s*** talk each other’s politics all the time, so i know the libertarian viewpoint pretty well by now lol. i’m not a huge fan of the way that the entire ideology boils down to “your property >> other people’s lives” though

  • Nov 18, 2020
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    HNdRXX7

    I read into Marx' philosophy and actually agreed with some statements a lot, and hate when people bash others as Marxists. But on a whole I just can't agree with a modern society that would replicate this.

    However my main inspiration is Milton Friedman, he's got plenty of youtube videos online if you wanna hear the other side. He's a full on libertarian who believes in the free market, and gives really good viewpoints.

    "I read into Marx' philosophy and actually agreed with some statements a lot"

    "However my main inspiration is Milton Friedman"

    yeah, no.

    and im not sure what your confusion about the "alternative" is ... do you think corporations are responsible for your public education or universal healthcare in europe? societies as a whole build those things without profit in mind, and the same should've been done for the vaccine.

  • Nov 18, 2020

    Milton Friedman is the biggest piece of s*** economist to ever live

  • Nov 18, 2020
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    coltrup

    "I read into Marx' philosophy and actually agreed with some statements a lot"

    "However my main inspiration is Milton Friedman"

    yeah, no.

    and im not sure what your confusion about the "alternative" is ... do you think corporations are responsible for your public education or universal healthcare in europe? societies as a whole build those things without profit in mind, and the same should've been done for the vaccine.

    Right lol how can you say you like some of Marx ideas then say you fw Friedman lol

  • Nov 18, 2020
    Bill Ackman

    Because that’s literally what you’re saying

    Neither of these vaccines would exist without the R&D driven by a profit motive

  • Nov 18, 2020
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    blonded

    didn't read don't care making money off of people dying is immoral and vaccines should be free

    people have to work to create them. companies have to hire these individuals and separate companies have to package and distribute them

    it costs millions if not billions to do this, but yeah should be free lol

  • Nov 18, 2020

    This is OP

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    Synopsis

    Right lol how can you say you like some of Marx ideas then say you fw Friedman lol

    It's been a minute since I read about Marx so I don't know enough to comment, but I remember enjoying how he came to his viewpoint in a structured and conceptual way. I think the main problem is how it doesn't work in practice and that people are inherently greedy.

  • Nov 18, 2020
    HNdRXX7

    It's been a minute since I read about Marx so I don't know enough to comment, but I remember enjoying how he came to his viewpoint in a structured and conceptual way. I think the main problem is how it doesn't work in practice and that people are inherently greedy.

    F***ing yawn

  • Nov 18, 2020
    HURRY UP sab

    most people i’ve interacted with who speak fondly of communism identify as Marxist-Leninist-Maoists. they always stress how a lot of Marx’s ideas don’t really work too well, so i can understand why you’d disagree with just Orthodox Marxism

    i have an old roommate who’s a hardcore libertarian & we s*** talk each other’s politics all the time, so i know the libertarian viewpoint pretty well by now lol. i’m not a huge fan of the way that the entire ideology boils down to “your property >> other people’s lives” though

    That must have been pretty fun lol. Hardcore libertarianism is pretty extreme, but since I started researching Friedman's thoughts, it started to make a lot of sense to me.

  • Nov 18, 2020
    mctate

    people have to work to create them. companies have to hire these individuals and separate companies have to package and distribute them

    it costs millions if not billions to do this, but yeah should be free lol

    Yes healthcare should be free