I'm a strong LGBTQ+ supporter but I think sports rules need some ground up reworking to basically make a politically correct version of "You go against the gender you were born with"

I mean I'm not transphobic at all it's just that it really seems weird when someone who was born a man is changing their gander to woman and they goes into an MMA cage with women

When it comes to soccer or most other team sports I don't care. If she/he can compete on the same level as the rest of the team - go for it.

But it's just seems not fair to make a girl fight against someone who was a man for 20+ years of their life

Also this is a very interesting subject and I'd like someone who has an opposite view to mine to show me his reasoning. I want to see the other side.

Did u make this thread just to make this silly joke

why dont u think trans women have an advantage over other women in team sports

If I knew I was competing against a Trans woman in a sport like fighting, running or the like I'd bow out. I already know they have a PHYSICAL advantage over me. Imma let ya'll have that. I'd rather compete against my physiological peers.

Also this becomes a problem in sports where there's a clear difference between man and woman

No one would bat an eye if Rapineo was kicking ass on a soccer field with man

So by asking "Should trans women participate in Women's sports" we are always thinking about the sports that man are superior in.

And those sports are weightlifting, boxing, MMA whooptie whoop

So I'm asking the question now

Why make it easier for women and giving them their own "version" of a sport

Maybe if they feel man enough to hit a girl in the face they should be okay with fighting with a man too

Point is:

Ditch gender in sports

I don't f***ing care if Sharapova crushed some young man tennis player
I don't f***ing care if girls go against guys in gymnastics and crush them

So why should I feel pity for girls fighting against man in a cage

If they don't want to throw hands for real don't throw hands at all

When I was is middle school we had to go against private sports schools at tournaments all the time

They had the advantage over us

But it's just life

They didn't make another league for sorry as non-sport middleschollers

If we wanna compete we have to compete against the best of them

Maybe I'm wrong bc it's harder to compare stats between man and women in team sports (25ppg is 25ppg no matter the gender, but having 10sec for 100m against 8sec is a visible difference)

But think about this subject in a bigger view

We are talking about physical difference between man and women

Women are shorter, weaker etc etc (Not trying to be sexist but I guess that's what this discussion is about)

But there are short man and there are weak man too

So if Isaiah Thomas (5ft9″) is playing ball with a 7ft4″ Boban Marjanowic and he has to find a way to be efficient I think women can play with a transgender women in team sports

IT can't just say "I'm short! I want to play with women!" he has to live with it

Same way no one tells Boban "you're too tall. go play with tall guys"

But when it comes to who can punch harder... That's a different story

Are you retttarded?

Name one woman who can guard Lebron James, or anyone in the NBA?

that is a man, idc what he identifies as, he haven't even had his gender transition surgery yet. how the f*** is this accepted?

grow long hair and identify as a woman and you can go into any ladies only place? wtf

I'm cool with calling u a woman if u got t*** and a vagina but this MAN does obviously not. his medals should be taken back.

Didn’t you know? You can wake up tomorrow and refer to yourself as a girl any time

lmao yes they do. that's what divisions in high school sports are for

i don’t know. it’s a difficult one and i don’t have any answers but saying there should be a “trans sports league” is weird because you’re saying that these people are an “other” when they actually identify as woman or man.

also why’s there transphobia itt especially coming from idiot OP

pretty much seeing as gender is a societal construct and holds no ground in biology

imo it should just be separated into weight or hormone classes rather than by gender

there are a lot of trans people who choose not to anything medically (and they are just as valid in that)

there also a quite a few FTM trans people that would enjoy participating in sports

also including NB people and such

saying that "trans people can't perform in sports" while also stating you support the rights of those people makes your support seem performative at best

btw y'all chuds consistently bring up these loose cases yet forget that the last four Olympic games allowed trans people to compete as their gender. If anything the y'all say is true then we would've seen at least one trans athlete at Rio

jumps on me saying I'm ed and then proceeds to prove my point

LeBron is feasting on everyone no matter the gender

He drops same 40 on IT as he will drop on a random from WNBA

It's f***ed up, especially when parents let their kids identify as something else and let them get surgery before they're 18.
ffs when I was like 9 I wanted to legally change my name to harry potter and dye my hair black. I told my parents that and they just laughed it off and ignored it. That's good parenting.

Now imagine if they said okay and told everyone to call me Harry, dyed my hair black and told me I could legally change my name and get a lightning scar on my forehead if I still felt like that in a year or two.

I would hate them for that today. and that's just a name change and a scar. nothing as big as a s***change. Letting a kid go through a s***change is child abuse.

dwayne wade f***ed up BAD. a kid goes thru phases all the time, s*** even aduts do too. But as a kid you don't know s*** about what you really want.

/rant over, don't let kids identify as something else and go thru s***change it's mental.

ok boomer

u can't even have a s***change in most places till ur 18 b

So you think we shoud let kids identify as something else and let them have a s***change before they're 18?

You know the brain isn't developed before age 25, right?

and how old are you? I'm 24, faaar from boomer.

People that know jack s*** about a subject talking about said subject is my favorite part of the internet

dude compares changing his name to Harry Potter bc he liked the book to changing your gender bc you don't feel happy in your own body

DWade the GOAT Dad! That's parenting. Supporting your children when they need you

it's because they refuse to inform themselves on these subjects

it's so easy to as well

cbsnews.com/news/sex-change-treatment-for-kids-on-the-rise

idk where u live but it's happening in some states in the US

How is that good parenting lmao. That’s not even a good scenario because most parents just laugh off things like that

However, if it’s something that makes their child depressed then it’s okay to support it. If their child happens to feel differently as they grow then it’s okay to support that too. That’s good parenting.

facts

it's like they know it's out there but refuse to look it up bc they are afraid they'll be proven wrong

24yo talking s*** about DWade bc he didn't say "fuck of" to his own child when he asked for help

“ Doctors who provide the treatment say withholding it would be more harmful.

These children sometimes resort to self-mutilation to try to change their anatomy; the other two journal reports note that some face verbal and physical abuse and are prone to stress, depression and suicide attempts. Spack said those problems typically disappear in kids who've had treatment and are allowed to live as the opposite sex.”

You’re comparing this to wanting to be called Harry Potter. btw