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  • sace 👍
    Dec 4, 2022

    what

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    sace

    Need to get around to rewatch Goodbye, Dragon Inn even that should made the list. Part cinema homage and part gay cruising story. In fact Tsai voted in 2012.

    Somnambulist cinema

  • sace 👍
    Dec 4, 2022
    Elric

    Somnambulist cinema

    Cinematic ghost story

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    Elric

    Somnambulist cinema

    stray dogs almost had me snoozin
    if they had some tsai in that 24h film marathon I was in folks woulda been KO'd

  • sace 👍
    Dec 4, 2022
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    Tsai slander I won’t tolerate

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    Elric

    Somnambulist cinema

    100% agree, it's rare to see this opinion online but yeah it just does absolutely nothing for me, I like a lot of slow cinema but I think you need to be a big cinephile 'power of cinema' guy to appreciate it, if you're not so interested in exploring the notion of what the cinema space means then it's just a whole lot of nothing for the most part

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    On this topic, The Turin Horse is absolute ass but Werckmeister Harmonies is a masterpiece

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    dundis

    stray dogs almost had me snoozin
    if they had some tsai in that 24h film marathon I was in folks woulda been KO'd

    Between that, Dragon Inn and Days I have a lifetime of audio/visual Ambien to knock me out when I can't sleep

  • Dec 4, 2022
    sace

    Tsai slander I won’t tolerate

    Every moment of all his films was fascinating up until he decided to be boring however

  • Dec 4, 2022
    Elric

    Between that, Dragon Inn and Days I have a lifetime of audio/visual Ambien to knock me out when I can't sleep

    What do you think of Lav Diaz? I find his stuff weirdly compelling but Tsai actively feels like nothing is happening and my time would best be spent elsewhere imo

  • sace 👍
    Dec 4, 2022
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    Goodbye, Dragon Inn seems to moves with you as your mind fixates on what’s going on there. Is it a ghost story? Is it a gay cruising story? The film left us in ambiguity and the usage of King Hu’s Dragon Inn enshrined in Taiwan’s cultural heritage. Is that the notion of their cinema never fades away, but encroaching of corporate imperialism and CCP right in their doorstep. To me it don’t let me go sleepwalking around the strip club and that’s the Tsai sinking the vibe.

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    Fries

    100% agree, it's rare to see this opinion online but yeah it just does absolutely nothing for me, I like a lot of slow cinema but I think you need to be a big cinephile 'power of cinema' guy to appreciate it, if you're not so interested in exploring the notion of what the cinema space means then it's just a whole lot of nothing for the most part

    I think the people who enjoy it are legitimately good at intellectualizing the dead air that kills me. As I've said this goes beyond "slow cinema" (which still has some general movement) into outright static cinema which apparently doesn't work for me. I never thought I would be throwing shade at Tsai when I was 2/3 of the way through his filmography but

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    Fries

    On this topic, The Turin Horse is absolute ass but Werckmeister Harmonies is a masterpiece

    You just never had a good poached potato

  • Dec 4, 2022
    Elric

    I think the people who enjoy it are legitimately good at intellectualizing the dead air that kills me. As I've said this goes beyond "slow cinema" (which still has some general movement) into outright static cinema which apparently doesn't work for me. I never thought I would be throwing shade at Tsai when I was 2/3 of the way through his filmography but

    I think I have the same thing regarding 'static cinema' (good term btw), like I need something to actually happen, even if it's subtle

    Paul Schrader once drew a distinction between his and Scorsese's handling of his scripts, where he said, not in a derogatory way, that Scorsese had something of the 'street entertainer' impulse in his work, whereas Schrader was less concerned with keeping the audience engaged in that way, and, while I love Schrader's work, I think that's something I need as well

    Like Tarkovksy's my favourite director of all time, but I'd say he's the 'street entertainer' version of directors that followed him like Tarr etc, as contemplative as Andrei Rublev is, there's a LOT of dynamic stuff going on, I'll always appreciate a director being more directly emotionally manipulative in their work than just employing an 'unjudging camera' approach, it's why Haneke does very little for me too

  • Dec 4, 2022
    dundis

    stray dogs almost had me snoozin
    if they had some tsai in that 24h film marathon I was in folks woulda been KO'd

    Only stray dog we acknowledge is Akira Kurosawa

  • sace 👍
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    It feels hypnagogic. The ambience and the atmospheric moodiness helps to fixate the images. Shih Chun crying watching Dragon Inn?
    Miao Tien who always plays a father at the end of the film accompanying by his grandson plus meeting Shih Chun? Two Dragon Inn actors meeting each other for the last time.
    So much somnambulist cinema. I feel like walking in that theater than a dirty strip club from the baddest part of town.

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    sace

    Goodbye, Dragon Inn seems to moves with you as your mind fixates on what’s going on there. Is it a ghost story? Is it a gay cruising story? The film left us in ambiguity and the usage of King Hu’s Dragon Inn enshrined in Taiwan’s cultural heritage. Is that the notion of their cinema never fades away, but encroaching of corporate imperialism and CCP right in their doorstep. To me it don’t let me go sleepwalking around the strip club and that’s the Tsai sinking the vibe.

    That was a great CKL watch

  • Dec 4, 2022
    Elric

    Between that, Dragon Inn and Days I have a lifetime of audio/visual Ambien to knock me out when I can't sleep

    i wish I could fall asleep to watching films

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    Elric

    Somnambulist cinema

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    shoutout filho for being the only director so far that picked a von trier, dogville

    all it takes is saying that you understand hitler and your legacy is screwed

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    even tho i don't care for iñárritu whatsoever him pickin you, the living (neck and neck with pigeon for fave roy andersson) is legendary

  • sace 👍
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    Almost went to sleep while watching The Man From London even with the Istavan speaking Hungarian with a fizzy-voiced English dub.

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    Elric

    You just never had a good poached potato

    I really tried with that movie man, I was legit angry when the credits rolled, felt like my time had really been wasted

    Re: the Griffith spiel, I don't like to be misinterpreted. In online film culture, of those who cross the barrier of actually engaging with Griffith's work, there's a contingent of people, particularly on 4chan's /tv/ board, who claim Griffith wasn't actually racist based on lies that can be countered by his own interviews, or outright see his exclusion from modern film culture as a conscious erasing by a Jewish/black/whoever they want it to be plot among film journalists, when really it's a reflection of modern audiences not wanting to engage with even mildly controversial artists, with Griffith being the most controversial director of all time

    I've seen enough 'Look how great Griffith's movies were! But we never talk about him, really makes you think huh...' around that I wanted to make clear that I didn't associate with those people, I did a deep-dive on him a while back and the guy was politically inchorent but the main constant was that he REALLY thought black people were subhuman, the guy's definitely got achievements that people don't talk about, his 1921 Dream Street was actually the first talkie, but it's not the result of a secret cabal

    Anywho, acknowledging Griffith's directorial talents online often goes hand in hand with 'and he wasn't even that bad of a guy', which is something I wanted to firmly disassociate from as it wouldn't be accurate to my actual thoughts and would harm the integrity of my argument, which is basically that more people should check out Intolerance

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    sace

    Almost went to sleep while watching The Man From London even with the Istavan speaking Hungarian with a fizzy-voiced English dub.

    the most jarring dub ever

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    Towjay Straub

    am i watching a movie or a painting dry

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