Dec 4, 2022
Elricam i watching a movie or a painting dry
elrico suave watching out 1 when
Dec 4, 2022
saceIt feels hypnagogic. The ambience and the atmospheric moodiness helps to fixate the images. Shih Chun crying watching Dragon Inn?
Miao Tien who always plays a father at the end of the film accompanying by his grandsonplus meeting Shih Chun? Two Dragon Inn actors meeting each other for the last time.
So much somnambulist cinema. I feel like walking in that theater than a dirty strip club from the baddest part of town.I genuinely liked those moments in the movie a lot, won't lie to you, but the dead air between really tried my patience
- Dec 4, 2022·1 replydundis
even tho i don't care for iñárritu whatsoever him pickin you, the living (neck and neck with pigeon for fave roy andersson) is legendary
- sace 👍Dec 4, 2022·2 replies
Griffith fathered Ford and Ford mastered it post ‘35
- Dec 4, 2022·1 reply
didn't griffith allegedly invent what we now call sequences (it's a lost film)
- Dec 4, 2022·2 repliesElric
no more roy i believe
a few months ago I walked by the street his studio on to get coffee beans and his place was boarded upi can't believe that he's gonna leave us with that midpack about endlessness
- Dec 4, 2022·1 replysace
Griffith fathered Ford and Ford mastered it post ‘35
It's crazy how many people Griffith is connected to from cinema's early days, I feel like people have to be honest about his influence and the quality of his work, yeah he didn't INVENT the close-up, but he pioneered modern film grammar as we use it today
Dec 4, 2022·1 replyLmao at y’all debating over which boring movie is better
- Dec 4, 2022·1 replyFries
I really tried with that movie man, I was legit angry when the credits rolled, felt like my time had really been wasted
Re: the Griffith spiel, I don't like to be misinterpreted. In online film culture, of those who cross the barrier of actually engaging with Griffith's work, there's a contingent of people, particularly on 4chan's /tv/ board, who claim Griffith wasn't actually racist based on lies that can be countered by his own interviews, or outright see his exclusion from modern film culture as a conscious erasing by a Jewish/black/whoever they want it to be plot among film journalists, when really it's a reflection of modern audiences not wanting to engage with even mildly controversial artists, with Griffith being the most controversial director of all time
I've seen enough 'Look how great Griffith's movies were! But we never talk about him, really makes you think huh...' around that I wanted to make clear that I didn't associate with those people, I did a deep-dive on him a while back and the guy was politically inchorent but the main constant was that he REALLY thought black people were subhuman, the guy's definitely got achievements that people don't talk about, his 1921 Dream Street was actually the first talkie, but it's not the result of a secret cabal
Anywho, acknowledging Griffith's directorial talents online often goes hand in hand with 'and he wasn't even that bad of a guy', which is something I wanted to firmly disassociate from as it wouldn't be accurate to my actual thoughts and would harm the integrity of my argument, which is basically that more people should check out Intolerance
believe me sir i did not get the impression you were a "he wasnt even that bad a guy" type of guy from your Griffith post lol.
i was saying essentially the same thing as you the other day but with a fraction of the fervor and buddy was telling i put too much into it so im sure hell have a response for you. I actually bought Birth Of A Nation eons ago for some reason and turfed it into the literal garbage right after watching
it was boring as hell in addition to everything else. Ive tried Intolerance several times and i cant get through it 
Griffith in the bottom tier silent film directors for me even disregarding the racism. - Dec 4, 2022·1 replydundis
didn't griffith allegedly invent what we now call sequences (it's a lost film)
He didn't really invent very much, he loved to say he did, close-ups, cross-cutting etc all existed before him, but where he was different was that he would use them for a specific effect, framing and cutting weren't as sophisticated a language before his work
The thing he can be most credited for is employing a subtler direction style, he knew that actors didn't have to play to the rafters if they were in a close-up, and because of his close-ups on actors giving subtler, more realistic performances, he helped to create the first movie stars, his 'Biograph Girls' were recognised from movie to movie in a way that other contemporary actors weren't, it's similar to how more sensitive microphone technology led to the crooning style of singing
- Dec 4, 2022·1 replysace
Griffith fathered Ford and Ford mastered it post ‘35
how many 200 minute films did Ford make again
- sace 👍Dec 4, 2022Fries
It's crazy how many people Griffith is connected to from cinema's early days, I feel like people have to be honest about his influence and the quality of his work, yeah he didn't INVENT the close-up, but he pioneered modern film grammar as we use it today
From Andrew Sarris; a tree was more than a tree.
- Dec 4, 2022·1 replydundis
no more roy i believe
a few months ago I walked by the street his studio on to get coffee beans and his place was boarded upi can't believe that he's gonna leave us with that midpack about endlessness
wait what
maybe he moved? - sace 👍Dec 4, 2022·1 replyElric
how many 200 minute films did Ford make again
The Iron Horse
- Dec 4, 2022·1 replyElric
believe me sir i did not get the impression you were a "he wasnt even that bad a guy" type of guy from your Griffith post lol.
i was saying essentially the same thing as you the other day but with a fraction of the fervor and buddy was telling i put too much into it so im sure hell have a response for you. I actually bought Birth Of A Nation eons ago for some reason and turfed it into the literal garbage right after watching
it was boring as hell in addition to everything else. Ive tried Intolerance several times and i cant get through it Griffith in the bottom tier silent film directors for me even disregarding the racism.I know man, I just wanted to make sure I didn't give that impression in general to whoever's reading, I'm more of an 'overcorrect to ensure I'm not misinterpeted later' guy because I hate explaining my words based on misunderstandings
And yeah Birth is horrible, from the second half onwards it feels like outright nazi propaganda, my critical faculties just stop working in the face of how disgusting it is
Interesting take for real, I definitely would rank him highly among silent directors, his best scenes have a real power to the for me, who are some of your fave silent filmmakers? Got into Gance recently and found Napoleon incredible even if the weird romantic comedy section felt out of place, guy was living in the future
- sace 👍Dec 4, 2022
I was saying about Gance, but he was something else. Impressionistic in that nature.
- Dec 4, 2022dundis
no more roy i believe
a few months ago I walked by the street his studio on to get coffee beans and his place was boarded upi can't believe that he's gonna leave us with that midpack about endlessness
That's a shame man, I never connected with his work but he's an incredibly unique voice in the film world, I hope he's moved or it's voluntary as opposed to financial reasons
- Dec 4, 2022·1 replyFries
He didn't really invent very much, he loved to say he did, close-ups, cross-cutting etc all existed before him, but where he was different was that he would use them for a specific effect, framing and cutting weren't as sophisticated a language before his work
The thing he can be most credited for is employing a subtler direction style, he knew that actors didn't have to play to the rafters if they were in a close-up, and because of his close-ups on actors giving subtler, more realistic performances, he helped to create the first movie stars, his 'Biograph Girls' were recognised from movie to movie in a way that other contemporary actors weren't, it's similar to how more sensitive microphone technology led to the crooning style of singing
Max Linder was a recognizable movie star in France before those chicks
- Dec 4, 2022·1 replyElric
wait what
maybe he moved?he's moved from stockholm, but I doubt that he's gonna make another film. he walks around with a cane and probably suffers from something, i'm sure he's retired. he also said something about taking out his state pension rn
but he can still do that even if he works technicallyhe used to live in the apartment above and there's also a mix and mastering studio there.
he always strived for complete independence with the way he shoots films (and commercials) after flopping with giliap (just making the props for endlessness took like 4 years?). renting a studio and being on a schedule where a studio costs a f*** ton of money would be impossible for him
one of the guys he took under his wing now owns the studio now. also that street is ridiculously expensive and roy owned the whole apartment block of 5 floors plus the garage
a sqm goes for 11k-13k dollars on that street
- Dec 4, 2022sace
The Iron Horse
its no Big Trail - Dec 4, 2022dundis
he's moved from stockholm, but I doubt that he's gonna make another film. he walks around with a cane and probably suffers from something, i'm sure he's retired. he also said something about taking out his state pension rn
but he can still do that even if he works technicallyhe used to live in the apartment above and there's also a mix and mastering studio there.
he always strived for complete independence with the way he shoots films (and commercials) after flopping with giliap (just making the props for endlessness took like 4 years?). renting a studio and being on a schedule where a studio costs a f*** ton of money would be impossible for him
one of the guys he took under his wing now owns the studio now. also that street is ridiculously expensive and roy owned the whole apartment block of 5 floors plus the garage
a sqm goes for 11k-13k dollars on that street
always funny to hear you europeans with your minuscule countries talk so casually about being neighbours with international artists
have an older scottish buddy who has endless stories - Dec 4, 2022·1 replyElric
Max Linder was a recognizable movie star in France before those chicks
Max reached relative stardom in 1907, Florence Lawrence reached relative stardom in 1908, it's close!
I'd say the important distinction is that Max was recognised for playing the same character, while the Biograph girls were recognised as actresses across different roles, not trying to diminish Max in any way though, he was clearly the blueprint for so many to follow, if Chaplin claims you as an OG, you're an OG
- Dec 4, 2022·1 replyFries
Max reached relative stardom in 1907, Florence Lawrence reached relative stardom in 1908, it's close!
I'd say the important distinction is that Max was recognised for playing the same character, while the Biograph girls were recognised as actresses across different roles, not trying to diminish Max in any way though, he was clearly the blueprint for so many to follow, if Chaplin claims you as an OG, you're an OG
look at these two goofing around
mutual admiration 
- Dec 4, 2022·1 replyElric
look at these two goofing around
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KkS0nC3FJs mutual admiration Such a wonderful vid man, makes me wish even more that we had more documentation of the Kurosawa/Tarkovksy meetup
- Dec 4, 2022·1 replyFries
Such a wonderful vid man, makes me wish even more that we had more documentation of the Kurosawa/Tarkovksy meetup
that probably wouldn't have been quite bit more awkward than these two hams
