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  • Dec 14, 2024
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    Water Giver

    Doggystyle to Blue Carpet Treatment from 2006 is the run + Bush in 2015.

    Blue Carpet was also his last major mainstream success - Ego Tripping (the next album after Blue Carpet) is when it falls off not only in sales but also quality.

    Great:

    Bush
    No Limit Topp Dogg
    Tha Last Meal
    Rhythm and Gangsta
    Hard Love (group collab album with Warren G and Nate Dogg)

    Good:

    Paid tha Cost to be tha Boss
    Blue Carpet Treatment
    Snoop Presents: The Eastsidaz (group album with artists he discovered, their debut)

    Ok/Mediocre:

    The Game is to be Sold Not Told
    Tha Doggfather

    Then there's also Dead Man Walkin' which was unreleased songs from Snoop (songs he recorded in 94 to 97 iirc) released by Suge after he left Death Row to go to Master P's No Limit label as a warning to Snoop (hence the "album" title) when Snoop was talking about Suge in interviews and for leaving.

    It has some good songs and bad songs, and its basically a mixtape released against Snoops will as basically a blackmail threat lol - from 98 if im not mistaken, but not considered official by Snoop.

    • Edit: Dead Man Walkin' is actually from 2000 I just read, it was due to Snoop talking in depth about the Death Row era in interviews while signed to No Limit, and Suge didn't like that. It consists of unreleased vaulted songs from 93 of Doggystyle leftovers all the way to 98 when Snoop left Death Row to go to No Limit.

    Great breakdown, couple additional things of interest that might be worth pointing out too:

    "Death Row: Snoop Doggy Dogg's Greatest Hits" was a so-called greatest hits album released by Suge after Snoop left the label, but interestingly enough like half of it is unreleased material. It's got like 6 tracks from the Death Row sessions plus an extra remix I think.

    Also maybe worth looking at is uh... I think it's called "Death Row: The Lost Records Vol. 1" or something? This was released sometime in the mid/late 2000s and featured another bunch of odds and ends from the old Death Row sessions, this time including some unreleased Dre production. A lot of it's pretty simplistic though, so I imagine some of it was unfinishrd stuff.

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    Great breakdown, couple additional things of interest that might be worth pointing out too:

    "Death Row: Snoop Doggy Dogg's Greatest Hits" was a so-called greatest hits album released by Suge after Snoop left the label, but interestingly enough like half of it is unreleased material. It's got like 6 tracks from the Death Row sessions plus an extra remix I think.

    Also maybe worth looking at is uh... I think it's called "Death Row: The Lost Records Vol. 1" or something? This was released sometime in the mid/late 2000s and featured another bunch of odds and ends from the old Death Row sessions, this time including some unreleased Dre production. A lot of it's pretty simplistic though, so I imagine some of it was unfinishrd stuff.

    yeah i thot about mentioning the greatest hits but felt like it might be doin too much

    death row has hella compilation albums full of a bunch of random s*** most of which is against most of their will lol

    or were lied about, like the comp album Chronic 2000 he did which was all new material, but the hella artists involved with it thought it had Dre's blessing

    it did not - and in fact Suge stole the title Chronic 2000 when he heard about it in closed doors as word that it was going to be Dr. Dre's next album title and a sequel to Chronic

    Suge stole the title name as spite due to Dre leaving Death Row, which then Dre scrapped a quarter of the already made project and renamed the project to 2001 - scrapped the og in process demo version because of reference lyrics to "Chronic 2000" 💀

    so Rows version of chronic 2000 is literally a double album with feats from s*** like Treach, Milkbone, Kurupt, Outlaws, Scarface, E40 etc. thinking it was all love, mixed with a few Pac vault songs after death like Who Do You Believe In - some of them even straight up Rap "Chronic 2000" in their lyrics and big up Dre

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    yeah i thot about mentioning the greatest hits but felt like it might be doin too much

    death row has hella compilation albums full of a bunch of random s*** most of which is against most of their will lol

    or were lied about, like the comp album Chronic 2000 he did which was all new material, but the hella artists involved with it thought it had Dre's blessing

    it did not - and in fact Suge stole the title Chronic 2000 when he heard about it in closed doors as word that it was going to be Dr. Dre's next album title and a sequel to Chronic

    Suge stole the title name as spite due to Dre leaving Death Row, which then Dre scrapped a quarter of the already made project and renamed the project to 2001 - scrapped the og in process demo version because of reference lyrics to "Chronic 2000" 💀

    so Rows version of chronic 2000 is literally a double album with feats from s*** like Treach, Milkbone, Kurupt, Outlaws, Scarface, E40 etc. thinking it was all love, mixed with a few Pac vault songs after death like Who Do You Believe In - some of them even straight up Rap "Chronic 2000" in their lyrics and big up Dre

    lmaoo I knew the basic details behind Chronic 2000: Still Smokin' but never actually sat down and listened to it, those namedrops sound insane

    Suge also dropped that ridiculous Too Hot for Radio comp shortly after that for memory, right when he was trying to sell DVDs literally just featuring his guys going up to random celebs in LA and beating them up

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    lmaoo I knew the basic details behind Chronic 2000: Still Smokin' but never actually sat down and listened to it, those namedrops sound insane

    Suge also dropped that ridiculous Too Hot for Radio comp shortly after that for memory, right when he was trying to sell DVDs literally just featuring his guys going up to random celebs in LA and beating them up

    right on the intro Treach talm bout "Chronic 2000" and biggin up Dre and they even have an OG Chronic-like skit as the intro 💀- and the album is TWENTY EIGHT TRACKS 💀💀

    shame cuz there is a good amount of songs that are actually dope but tied to the stain and bad image of trying to f*** over dre and tricking them all

    and yeah LMAO Suge was just doin whatever

  • Dec 14, 2024

    Moat polarising album I've seen in a while

  • Dec 14, 2024
    Lord Quas

    How's it sounding btw?

    Might peep tomorrow during my shift.

    Nothing like Dre production besides Gorgeous lol

  • Dec 14, 2024

    Can't believe I'm saying this but I wish we had some Nate Dogg AI vocals (or unreleased) on here. Normally wouldn't condone something like that but you just know Nate would have loved to be a part of this man.

  • Dec 14, 2024

    i just want the paper

    GUNSMOKE GUNSMOKE

  • Water Giver

    right on the intro Treach talm bout "Chronic 2000" and biggin up Dre and they even have an OG Chronic-like skit as the intro 💀- and the album is TWENTY EIGHT TRACKS 💀💀

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqvWAr1OKEg

    shame cuz there is a good amount of songs that are actually dope but tied to the stain and bad image of trying to f*** over dre and tricking them all

    and yeah LMAO Suge was just doin whatever

    lmao yeah every time I see that massive tracklist it puts me off, I gotta just sit down someday and actually give it one whole front to back listen

  • Dec 14, 2024

    love it when the titties bounce in missionary

    any songs about that?

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    wtf is wrong with dre's mixing man the compression is insane

  • Dec 14, 2024
    Kee

    Y'all sayin this is garbage????

    TRIPPIN.

    This s*** actually fire

  • Dec 14, 2024

    this album is dope, y'all just have no taste anymore.

    i feel like dre continued what he started with marsha's LP with all these samples and music references.

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    What I’ve heard of this album is so reminiscent of that Kanye Dre album but people hated that

    Oh I guess the reviews of this are iffy too

    But yeah modern Dre having the sound be like, overly hard for lack of a better word is cool but jarring at times

  • Production sounds like a mix of Compton with some relapse and casablanco hints

  • S*** is fire

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    Water Giver

    yeah i thot about mentioning the greatest hits but felt like it might be doin too much

    death row has hella compilation albums full of a bunch of random s*** most of which is against most of their will lol

    or were lied about, like the comp album Chronic 2000 he did which was all new material, but the hella artists involved with it thought it had Dre's blessing

    it did not - and in fact Suge stole the title Chronic 2000 when he heard about it in closed doors as word that it was going to be Dr. Dre's next album title and a sequel to Chronic

    Suge stole the title name as spite due to Dre leaving Death Row, which then Dre scrapped a quarter of the already made project and renamed the project to 2001 - scrapped the og in process demo version because of reference lyrics to "Chronic 2000" 💀

    so Rows version of chronic 2000 is literally a double album with feats from s*** like Treach, Milkbone, Kurupt, Outlaws, Scarface, E40 etc. thinking it was all love, mixed with a few Pac vault songs after death like Who Do You Believe In - some of them even straight up Rap "Chronic 2000" in their lyrics and big up Dre

    I've heard that Dre and Jimmy Iovine were actually in negotiations to get the rights to use the name "Chronic 2000" for the album after Suge bought it, and Suge could've gotten royalties off it but then it fell through because Suge asked too high of a price

    This is according to Reggie Wright Jr. but I would believe it because it sounds like a scheme Suge would do, both to f*** over Dre and make money off his music

  • Skyscraper and thank you for exemple might be top 50 Dre productions imo
    Amongst big bang, relapse, Compton
    The claps and the constructions of some beats reminded me of « talking to me diary »
    With complex and long loops
    Thank you is Kush level tier instrumental maybe

    No skits only music is cool
    I will definitely lisen to it entirely on a regular basis

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    Water Giver

    right on the intro Treach talm bout "Chronic 2000" and biggin up Dre and they even have an OG Chronic-like skit as the intro 💀- and the album is TWENTY EIGHT TRACKS 💀💀

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqvWAr1OKEg

    shame cuz there is a good amount of songs that are actually dope but tied to the stain and bad image of trying to f*** over dre and tricking them all

    and yeah LMAO Suge was just doin whatever

    There's actually some good songs on this project and I can't lie, Tha Realest actually had some good songs too, he was probably the best Pac clone at the time

  • necromancer

    I've heard that Dre and Jimmy Iovine were actually in negotiations to get the rights to use the name "Chronic 2000" for the album after Suge bought it, and Suge could've gotten royalties off it but then it fell through because Suge asked too high of a price

    This is according to Reggie Wright Jr. but I would believe it because it sounds like a scheme Suge would do, both to f*** over Dre and make money off his music

    Yeah this is true and comon knowledge for a Dre Stan like me bruh

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    necromancer

    There's actually some good songs on this project and I can't lie, Tha Realest actually had some good songs too, he was probably the best Pac clone at the time

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDqCAyP5l5E!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=104a4x6ShT8!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JSaoptVreI!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt3C9zma3x8

    Is Tha Realest the guy that people have theorised recorded fake Pac verses for some of the posthumous albums?

    Always thought that was a bit of a stretch personally

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    Is Tha Realest the guy that people have theorised recorded fake Pac verses for some of the posthumous albums?

    Always thought that was a bit of a stretch personally

    iirc he did some fill-in vocals for the radio version of troublesome 96 and unconditional love

    to my knowledge, they never gave him posthumous pac verses to do, but they did use him to do some stuff like adlibs and s*** like that

  • Dec 15, 2024

    Another part of me >>>>>>

  • Dec 15, 2024
    JollofRaids

    wtf is wrong with dre's mixing man the compression is insane

    ngl, i've only made it through 3 songs cause the mixing is way too harsh

  • Dec 15, 2024
    Kojimbo

    Cap

    Relapse might be his best produced album and nobody else is credited on there

    What do you think a ghost producer is lol

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