the battles of Say you will for the next generation going to be the new ....

vs.

even though I prefer Ye's say you will, drake was floating on the beat. plus he had one of my favorite lines
"'Cause I just seen my ex-girl, standing with my next girl
Standing with the girl that I'm f***in' right now"

C3 in no way shape or form is like blueprint at all

saying “lol soul samples” is a very lazy comparison

I clearly said the C3 leaks

im taking 100% owiginal song ova wappin ova som1 elses beet anydae

He also reached out to Kanye for tracks, that shows that his sound had an influence on Wayne and it was something he wanted in his work. And I didn’t only name soul samples, but the prominent vocal samples in general

thats fair though, sorry about the other post i couldnt help myself

its cool bro, I know I have it coming sometimes

This argument again lol

808s --> sfg/Take care --> Hob is what created the whole moody rnb sound of today

wayne has been rapping on soul samples since the hot boyz era...

And theres a clear difference between just singing on a track like rnb and the singing that was done on 808s and sfg

808s isnt rnb

Cacs exposing themselves itt

!!!!!!!!!!

a kid named cudi>>>>>>so far gone

It isnt at all, its definitely more pop, but theres no denying it has rnb elements to it

Yeah but not the same kind. Something You Forgot isn’t a soul sample it’s just the chipmunk effect on a rock song but I don’t think it happens in a world without Kanye. Wayne wasn’t rapping over Beatles tracks in the 90s. Kanye’s influence wasn’t really about soul samples but specifically sped up, prominent vocal samples that hadn’t really been done before

You’re right in a way, but pop is really just a form of r&b anyway

Kanye isn’t the sole reason why wayne hopped on soul samples period, if anything without Jay those soul samples never get any sort of traction period

I’m a little confused why you keep going back to soul samples when I made the distinction twice that it’s not just soul samples. Of course Jay is why it got hot but it was Kanye’s sound, you can’t write him out of it influence wise. Again imo, if you call Kanye and get beats from him that’s a form of influence in itself, add to that the fact a lot of his other beats at the time were Kanye type beats and it’s pretty clear he was moved by the Blueprint sound which Kanye is a big part of

Also who said influence has to mean “being the sole reason”? That’s a limited definition of influence, no one is the sole reason for anything really

Do I need to get involved in here?

No

Real

Lol ok literally this was the conversation in the other thread

so you have to make your own thread when there’s already an ongoing discussion about it?

look at you, try hard