so you have to make your own thread when there’s already an ongoing discussion about it?
look at you, try hard
No I’m educating you ignorant f***s
The creators themselves would disagree
No I’m educating you ignorant f***s
you’re narrow ass sheltered view on things is anything but educational
you’re narrow ass sheltered view on things is anything but educational
Nah I didn’t start listening to r&b at HOB, quite the opposite.
Nah I didn’t start listening to r&b at HOB, quite the opposite.
seems you’re not far off if your timeline starts at SFG
this man a PND stan talking about r&b
must really love all 3 notes Jahron is capable of hitting
seems you’re not far off if your timeline starts at SFG
Before SFG r&b production was not dark in the mainstream. Anyone with any knowledge of the genre would understand that easily.
Usher has given credit to Partynextdoor on r&b and said Usher personally influenced him. See how this works?
I’m fully convinced your not as ignorant as you claim to be and just trolling me.....That gotta be it
I mean the biggest difference is the topic matter at hand when it comes to 808's and SFG.
Listen to this
7:50-8:20
Seeing this video.
I can definitely say Kanye is the MJ of hip hop.
Before SFG r&b production was not dark in the mainstream. Anyone with any knowledge of the genre would understand that easily.
Usher has given credit to Partynextdoor on r&b and said Usher personally influenced him. See how this works?
I’m fully convinced your not as ignorant as you claim to be and just trolling me.....That gotta be it
ahhhh so that’s what this is really about
how am I just now seeing it
you only tryna big up artists that cosign party
still salty about your man flopping so you tryna shift the narrative
I’m a little confused why you keep going back to soul samples when I made the distinction twice that it’s not just soul samples. Of course Jay is why it got hot but it was Kanye’s sound, you can’t write him out of it influence wise. Again imo, if you call Kanye and get beats from him that’s a form of influence in itself, add to that the fact a lot of his other beats at the time were Kanye type beats and it’s pretty clear he was moved by the Blueprint sound which Kanye is a big part of
Also who said influence has to mean “being the sole reason”? That’s a limited definition of influence, no one is the sole reason for anything really
it’s Kanye’s sound but wayne did it because of jay. Not because of kanye
you’re the one who keeps pointing out any soul samples in the leaks and chartering it up as Kanye influence
you don’t have to be the sole reason for it to be influence, i wouldn’t say wayne is the sole reason why Kanye went so hard on autotune after him but he was definitely a main factor for sure
and wayne influenced 808s so it’s Wayne’s influence
Lmao no u mean T-Pain rappa Ternt sanga
it’s Kanye’s sound but wayne did it because of jay. Not because of kanye
you’re the one who keeps pointing out any soul samples in the leaks and chartering it up as Kanye influence
you don’t have to be the sole reason for it to be influence, i wouldn’t say wayne is the sole reason why Kanye went so hard on autotune after him but he was definitely a main factor for sure
I pointed out 2 tracks that weren’t soul samples that sound like Kanye beats
Also yeah Wayne did it because of jay but that still counts as ye influence, I hate these discussions cause I feel like people have such a narrow scope of what influence can be. If Jay influenced Wayne to use kanye’s style of beats then without Kanye that couldn’t happen so he still influenced it happening
Before SFG r&b production was not dark in the mainstream. Anyone with any knowledge of the genre would understand that easily.
Usher has given credit to Partynextdoor on r&b and said Usher personally influenced him. See how this works?
I’m fully convinced your not as ignorant as you claim to be and just trolling me.....That gotta be it
If anything thee main influence 808’s had was its dark production like on Welcome to Heartbreak
My nigga how was a underground mixtape more mainstream then 808’s
I disagree with him but cmon SFG is not an underground mixtape whatsoever
only person that did SFG before Drake was Cudi
and cudi influenced 808s more than any other artist around ye so lets really talk about influence