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  • Yeah thats why 4chan neckbeard "libertarians" admire them

  • Jan 18, 2021
    999Wrld

    What exactly do you want us to do

    to know at least

  • Jan 18, 2021

    Cancel everybody!

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    Sand Man

    Listen.

    Pre-20th century, ambolitionism was a virtue supported by a very small number of people.

    Listen.

    Not sayin that he should fight for the end of slavery, he rather justified it as he said that natural slaves exist, so thats normal

    It actually even contradicts his definition of a human being but thats another story

  • Jan 18, 2021
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    OP my guy but he got this all twisted

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    stingray

    OP my guy but he got this all twisted

    but why

  • Jan 18, 2021
    Super Mario

    In the words of Aristotle:"The relation of male to female is by nature a relation of superior to inferior and ruler to ruled."He maintains in his famous piece ‘politics’ that men are better leaders than women who are more sentimental and less prudent inherently.He further says “The female also is more subject to depression of spirits and despair than the male. She is also more shameless and false, more readily deceived, and more mindful of injury, more watchful, more idle, and on the whole less excitable than the male.”

    As compared to Plato, Aristotle was more conservative; while the former gives to women in his ideal state equal rights of citizenship and education and no distinction in performance of civic duties, the latter disenfranchise women from the right of citizenship and completely bars them from performing any sort ind of state functions on the grounds of their weaker mental capabilities and inability to cope with the emotional stress.

    I'm sure that's some of the reason Republic by Plato is a much more prolific text than Aristotle's Politics.

    Besides, the point is not that everything a particular philosopher says is correct or moral, they are simply putting ideas out there while trying to form an idea of how the world works/should work in their mind.

    Do you want to cancel Thales for believing everything was made out of water?

  • Jan 18, 2021
    Super Mario

    Listen.

    Not sayin that he should fight for the end of slavery, he rather justified it as he said that natural slaves exist, so thats normal

    It actually even contradicts his definition of a human being but thats another story

    Listen.

    Those beliefs were endemic to the era they lived through.

  • Jan 18, 2021
    Gojira

    Slavoj Zizek god tier

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    F*** all these weird ass white boys and our educational system for shoving their ideology down our throats. Think about how absolutely f***ing sick it is the amount of time POC have to spend in school learning and regurgitating the ideology of niggas who thought of them as savage, sub-human, and lesser than I’d rather listen to Pac

  • Jan 18, 2021
    Nessy

    not mad at him more mad at people thinking it's relevant to teach us about what he had to say on atoms when we could just talk about all the scientists of the 20th century!!

    You're good I'm just f***in with you cause of how heated your comment was

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    Yuzzy

    If we are to make moral judgements, they must be based on the culture at that time. The opinions are abhorrent but not in that context

    i agree somewhat but heidegger still a b**** for being a full on nazi

  • Jan 18, 2021
    FlyMx

    F*** all these weird ass white boys and our educational system for shoving their ideology down our throats. Think about how absolutely f***ing sick it is the amount of time POC have to spend in school learning and regurgitating the ideology of niggas who thought of them as savage, sub-human, and lesser than I’d rather listen to Pac

  • Jan 18, 2021
    KURCOBANE

    i agree somewhat but heidegger still a b**** for being a full on nazi

    Hannah Arendt is even worse

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    The StepFather

    This wrong. Cultures and customs change within the context of religion, morals, etc. Humans don't, so not valuing humanity is always a negative no matter what time you on broski

    It's a negative to be sure but don't think it should impact how we view them and their work. A lesser issue, but in the future (or even now) 20th century views on animals will be considered speciesist, but for me its unfair to judge them for that

    One could claim that they are meant to be the greatest thinkers, and ought to be able to predict societies changing values but thats a bit unfair I think, their job is to reason about the world and come to conclusions, its unsurprising some of these conclusions are offensive to modern values

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    so what's next? inventors? scientists? mathematicians? filmmakers? authors? etc etc

  • Jan 18, 2021

    Everyone prior to 1985 is officially cancelled, sorry sweaties 👋

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    Freud was the only normal one am i right

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    sace

    so what's next? inventors? scientists? mathematicians? filmmakers? authors? etc etc

    youre trying to say we cant call them out for being racist, sexist, etc?

  • Jan 18, 2021

    this is why I only listen to contrapoints

  • Jan 18, 2021
    Yevin

    Freud was the only normal one am i right

    freud was maybe the sickest one of them, but in a different context

  • Yuzzy

    It's a negative to be sure but don't think it should impact how we view them and their work. A lesser issue, but in the future (or even now) 20th century views on animals will be considered speciesist, but for me its unfair to judge them for that

    One could claim that they are meant to be the greatest thinkers, and ought to be able to predict societies changing values but thats a bit unfair I think, their job is to reason about the world and come to conclusions, its unsurprising some of these conclusions are offensive to modern values

    Doesn't matter what you think. Once you invalidate someone's humanity you are wrong, No and, ifs, or buts about it.

    You can't be a great thinker if you don't evaluate as many options as you can. These people were idiots with privilege.

  • Jan 18, 2021
    KURCOBANE

    youre trying to say we cant call them out for being racist, sexist, etc?

    so.. the future would be straight from the obsolete man episode from rod serling's twilight zone

  • Jan 18, 2021
    KURCOBANE

    youre trying to say we cant call them out for being racist, sexist, etc?

    yeah People in schools should at least know about the people they are reading books from