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  • Updated Oct 27, 2022

    no s*** the things kanye said are so stupid, uninformed and can cause genuine damage. it's a real shame that a Prince / Warhol / Beatles / Bowie level artist and icon is so unapologetic about ruining his generation defining legacy

    BUT - lots of "do as i say, not as i do" going on right now.

    the talent agency CAA that dropped kanye from their roster in response to this situation is factually proven to have aided harvey weinstein in arranging the private meetings where he would conduct his abuse. but, once a controversial black man uses WORDS, not actions, they kick him to the curb?

    adidas has every right to drop Ye. but i think its complete bullshit that they want to drop kanye and be all noble while simultaneously saying "we'll continue to sell yeezy designs without his name on it". so, you don't condone the things the man says, but you DO condone the way his designs can line your pockets?

    twitter has every right to remove a man encouraging anti-semitism which is against their rules - makes sense. but why do they currently allow Suhail Shaheen (top Taliban spokesman) to actively use his official account with almost 700k followers - the taliban believe in the forceful prosecution of all Jewish people in the arab world.

    don't even get me started on how all of these capitalists, social media infographic-ass-trends and the "who can hold the most social currency" holier-than-thou mentality of western culture is ALWAYS in favor of mental health education and awareness - except when Kanye is involved.

    if headlines came out today "ed sheeran has manic episode, says he hates black people in incoherent string of racist tweets - has been purposefully avoiding his prescribed bipolar medications for 2 years", the amy schumer's and gigi hadid's of the world would be posting "Praying for Ed. Mental health matters, I hope he finds the care he needs right now." type bullshit right now on their instagram stories

    have the man experience ramifications for irresponsibly abusing one of pop-culture's largest voices? fine, actions should absolutely have consequences. but it really rubs me the wrong way when all these already predatory institutions and societal norms throw all their circumstantial tolerance out the window when a nuanced conversation about mental illness and censorship appears. this situation is being handled so beyond poorly and hypocritically by all parties involved (kanye included).

    EDIT:
    some people in the thread are taking my ed sheeran a***ogy too literally - i'm trying to make the point that if you put a much more palatable face on the front lines of a major controversy (a white one, perhaps), it would go down with much more empathy and cautiousness than this. all of the major systems kanye has been going against publically for years saw the golden opportunity to wipe him off the map and they are taking it

  • Oct 27, 2022
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    poolboy
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    no s*** the things kanye said are so stupid, uninformed and can cause genuine damage. it's a real shame that a Prince / Warhol / Beatles / Bowie level artist and icon is so unapologetic about ruining his generation defining legacy

    BUT - lots of "do as i say, not as i do" going on right now.

    the talent agency CAA that dropped kanye from their roster in response to this situation is factually proven to have aided harvey weinstein in arranging the private meetings where he would conduct his abuse. but, once a controversial black man uses WORDS, not actions, they kick him to the curb?

    adidas has every right to drop Ye. but i think its complete bullshit that they want to drop kanye and be all noble while simultaneously saying "we'll continue to sell yeezy designs without his name on it". so, you don't condone the things the man says, but you DO condone the way his designs can line your pockets?

    twitter has every right to remove a man encouraging anti-semitism which is against their rules - makes sense. but why do they currently allow Suhail Shaheen (top Taliban spokesman) to actively use his official account with almost 700k followers - the taliban believe in the forceful prosecution of all Jewish people in the arab world.

    don't even get me started on how all of these capitalists, social media infographic-ass-trends and the "who can hold the most social currency" holier-than-thou mentality of western culture is ALWAYS in favor of mental health education and awareness - except when Kanye is involved.

    if headlines came out today "ed sheeran has manic episode, says he hates black people in incoherent string of racist tweets - has been purposefully avoiding his prescribed bipolar medications for 2 years", the amy schumer's and gigi hadid's of the world would be posting "Praying for Ed. Mental health matters, I hope he finds the care he needs right now." type bullshit right now on their instagram stories

    have the man experience ramifications for irresponsibly abusing one of pop-culture's largest voices? fine, actions should absolutely have consequences. but it really rubs me the wrong way when all these already predatory institutions and societal norms throw all their circumstantial tolerance out the window when a nuanced conversation about mental illness and censorship appears. this situation is being handled so beyond poorly and hypocritically by all parties involved (kanye included).

    EDIT:
    some people in the thread are taking my ed sheeran a***ogy too literally - i'm trying to make the point that if you put a much more palatable face on the front lines of a major controversy (a white one, perhaps), it would go down with much more empathy and cautiousness than this. all of the major systems kanye has been going against publically for years saw the golden opportunity to wipe him off the map and they are taking it

    this about to be locked, but for what it matters I agree with you 100%

  • Oct 27, 2022
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    Ain’t no way Ed f***ing Sheeran getting away with making fun of George Floyd and saying slavery was a choice while also doubling down and not apologizing

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    Ain’t no way Ed f***ing Sheeran getting away with making fun of George Floyd and saying slavery was a choice while also doubling down and not apologizing

    fax.

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    Real ass post

  • Oct 27, 2022
    92 BRICKS

    Ain’t no way Ed f***ing Sheeran getting away with making fun of George Floyd and saying slavery was a choice while also doubling down and not apologizing

    very true

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    92 BRICKS

    Ain’t no way Ed f***ing Sheeran getting away with making fun of George Floyd and saying slavery was a choice while also doubling down and not apologizing

    you know what i mean though. place any wholesome celebrity who is well liked by the status quo into this position and society would have totally taken the "their illness is not their fault" route

  • Oct 27, 2022
    ThatBoy

    Real ass post

    i do what i can

  • Oct 27, 2022
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    Probably the best take I’ve seen

  • real nigga s***

  • Oct 27, 2022
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    Kanye wanted war and he got it

  • Oct 27, 2022

    Spitting

  • Oct 27, 2022
    LISTENER

    this about to be locked, but for what it matters I agree with you 100%

  • Oct 27, 2022
    Orangutan

    Probably the best take I’ve seen

    thank you <3

  • BARS

  • Oct 27, 2022
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    poolboy

    you know what i mean though. place any wholesome celebrity who is well liked by the status quo into this position and society would have totally taken the "their illness is not their fault" route

    Yeah but those wholesome plants would’ve apologized and made a statement promising to change. Ye doubled down and refused to give a believable apology that didn’t come off as sarcastic

  • Oct 27, 2022
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    OP continues to think private corporations are here to do the right thing and not rake in profit margins you are like two centuries behind fam take the next step and organize against their interests

  • Oct 27, 2022
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    americana

    OP continues to think private corporations are here to do the right thing and not rake in profit margins you are like two centuries behind fam take the next step and organize against their interests

    you're missing my point. i know the private corporations are here to do the WRONG thing - they always have and always will.

    my point is its bullshit that society rationalises and ignores the hypocrisy of these corporations / social norms / societal systems and instead chooses to make someone like kanye the topic of the day while so many things this society encourages are the very things it claims it's so upset about

  • Oct 27, 2022

    Western society is entirely based on image bro, we genuinely don't have much morals unless they're attached to a positive image and money.

  • bunch of kanye enablers itt

  • Oct 27, 2022
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    poolboy

    you're missing my point. i know the private corporations are here to do the WRONG thing - they always have and always will.

    my point is its bullshit that society rationalises and ignores the hypocrisy of these corporations / social norms / societal systems and instead chooses to make someone like kanye the topic of the day while so many things this society encourages are the very things it claims it's so upset about

    Society is shaped by economic conditions much more fundamentally than than the opposite, it’s simply the product of our current situation

    If we can work to change these conditions we can change social attitudes

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    Ain’t no way Ed f***ing Sheeran getting away with making fun of George Floyd and saying slavery was a choice while also doubling down and not apologizing

    Yeah OP is making up a double standard that wouldn't happen

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    lowkey ppl just love watching companies do s*** like this. they'll talk s*** abt em any off day of the week but soon as you get some stupid overreach like this it's not interpreted as a reason for action or actual discussion by most ppl, it just becomes a spectacle to see for them

  • Oct 27, 2022
    americana

    Society is shaped by economic conditions much more fundamentally than than the opposite, it’s simply the product of our current situation

    If we can work to change these conditions we can change social attitudes

    i absolutely agree with you that society is shaped by economic conditions. but how does the common person like you or I change these conditions when the people who control the economics (adidas, twitter, insert company here) get to say what is right or wrong

  • poolboy

    you're missing my point. i know the private corporations are here to do the WRONG thing - they always have and always will.

    my point is its bullshit that society rationalises and ignores the hypocrisy of these corporations / social norms / societal systems and instead chooses to make someone like kanye the topic of the day while so many things this society encourages are the very things it claims it's so upset about

    That's capitalism for you...

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