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  • Feb 26, 2021
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    Level 5 Goblin

    they already have $15 minimum wage in those cities.

    some places like Alabama, where I live, will never raise their minimum wage unless forced to. They are still at the current federal minimum of $7.25

    $15 min wage is too high in a lot of places tbh maybe instead of pushing to more than double min wage they could try $8.50 or $10 an hour

  • Feb 26, 2021
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    NiceLikeChrist

    Question: why do people keep begging for the government to raise the federal min wage? can't the cities and states do it themselves?

    plenty of cities have min wages of $15 and have had it for a while now

    To force those cities and states that have it less than 15

  • Feb 26, 2021
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    CLB Fractions

    $15 min wage is too high in a lot of places tbh maybe instead of pushing to more than double min wage they could try $8.50 or $10 an hour

    $15 minimum wage is $31,200 per year. That's still not a tremendous amount of money, even though the cost of living here is cheaper

  • Feb 26, 2021
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    DVLPR

    To force those cities and states that have it less than 15

    Yea but why won’t the states raise it themselves? It’s possible isn’t it

    Are there no people acting as mayors or governors who want to raise min wage ?

  • Feb 26, 2021
    NiceLikeChrist

    Yea but why won’t the states raise it themselves? It’s possible isn’t it

    Are there no people acting as mayors or governors who want to raise min wage ?

    theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/26/alabama-passes-law-banning-minimum-wage-increase

    Birmingham wasn't even trying to go to $15 and they shut that s*** down

  • Feb 26, 2021
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    NiceLikeChrist

    Yea but why won’t the states raise it themselves? It’s possible isn’t it

    Are there no people acting as mayors or governors who want to raise min wage ?

    The same argument could be made for every company. Any company could pay a minimum wage of 15 if they wanted to. Some of them will some of them won’t, but if they have to by law, all of them will.

  • Feb 26, 2021
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    Level 5 Goblin

    $15 minimum wage is $31,200 per year. That's still not a tremendous amount of money, even though the cost of living here is cheaper

    but why fight for something that wont pass when u can do gradual change

  • Feb 26, 2021
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    DVLPR

    The same argument could be made for every company. Any company could pay a minimum wage of 15 if they wanted to. Some of them will some of them won’t, but if they have to by law, all of them will.

    every company cant pay workers more than double

  • Feb 26, 2021
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    CLB Fractions

    but why fight for something that wont pass when u can do gradual change

    The Biden plan already WAS gradual change. Their plan is to increase it to $15 by 2025, not immediately

  • Feb 26, 2021
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    CLB Fractions

    every company cant pay workers more than double

    Watch them doing exactly that when it’s mandatory.

  • Feb 26, 2021
    DVLPR

    Watch them doing exactly that when it’s mandatory.

    watch businesses go out of business and watch prices go up

  • Feb 26, 2021
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    Level 5 Goblin

    The Biden plan already WAS gradual change. Their plan is to increase it to $15 by 2025, not immediately

    2025 is only 4 years away

  • Feb 26, 2021
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    CLB Fractions

    2025 is only 4 years away

    how f***ing gradual do you want it to be? you want 50 cents a year so it takes us until 2036 to get to 15 dollars? We're falling behind inflation already.

    Just say you don't think minimum wage workers should be able to survive on their earnings if that's what you really believe, don't know why you're hiding behind this "gradual change" thing

  • Feb 26, 2021
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    m FREE PALESTINE x

    Synop, I'm just not gonna respond if you're gonna troll like this

    Manchin and Sinema will not vote for the stimulus with the minimum wage raise tacked on, and they have made that clear. The fact that they can disregard the parliamentarian is irrelevant. They could literally fire and replace her if they wanted to- it doesn’t make a difference. Minimum wage kills this bill.

    Synopsis is delusional. For someone so condescending, he has no idea what he’s talking about and this thread has demonstrated that perfectly.

  • Feb 26, 2021
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    Level 5 Goblin

    how f***ing gradual do you want it to be? you want 50 cents a year so it takes us until 2036 to get to 15 dollars? We're falling behind inflation already.

    Just say you don't think minimum wage workers should be able to survive on their earnings if that's what you really believe, don't know why you're hiding behind this "gradual change" thing

    I think minimum wage should vary by location and not just a blanket minimum wage. so dont strawman me

  • Feb 26, 2021
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    CLB Fractions

    I think minimum wage should vary by location and not just a blanket minimum wage. so dont strawman me

    Sure, Some places should be more than $15, like in LA where cost of living is really expensive

  • Feb 26, 2021
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    Level 5 Goblin

    Sure, Some places should be more than $15, like in LA where cost of living is really expensive

    and some should be less

  • Feb 26, 2021
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    CLB Fractions

    and some should be less

    No, if a company can't afford to pay their workers $15 an hour that company shouldn't exist

  • Feb 26, 2021
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    Level 5 Goblin

    No, if a company can't afford to pay their workers $15 an hour that company shouldn't exist

    based on what?

  • Feb 26, 2021
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    CLB Fractions

    based on what?

    based on the fact that workers deserve to be paid a living wage for their labor.

  • Feb 26, 2021
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    Level 5 Goblin

    based on the fact that workers deserve to be paid a living wage for their labor.

    why $15 and not $14?

    So you are okay with automation and people getting less hours or laid off?

    would you rather see 6 people make $10 and hour at a job or two get laid off for 4 to make $15 an hour?

  • Feb 26, 2021
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    Level 5 Goblin

    they already have $15 minimum wage in those cities.

    some places like Alabama, where I live, will never raise their minimum wage unless forced to. They are still at the current federal minimum of $7.25

    If the federal minimum wage become $15 then NY for example gotta be at least $20 minimum to be fair

  • Feb 26, 2021
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    CLB Fractions

    why $15 and not $14?

    So you are okay with automation and people getting less hours or laid off?

    would you rather see 6 people make $10 and hour at a job or two get laid off for 4 to make $15 an hour?

    $15 is arbitrary but if we make concessions to people like you then it'll get whittled away to barely anything

    I am more than ok with automation, in fact I work in that field and I know that just because something is automated doesn't always mean someone loses their job.

    AND if someone does lose their job there should be a safety net for them, but that doesn't work too well here in America since welfare has been totally eroded

  • Feb 26, 2021
    onetwo

    If the federal minimum wage become $15 then NY for example gotta be at least $20 minimum to be fair

    yes

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