After reading multiple pdfs I've come to the conclusion that the Iraq War was the Neocons attempt to answer the problem of falling defense budgets for American/Israeli Military Industrial Complexes and an insecure investment environment for American oil companies in Iraq

Real sht

crine all these protestors in shambles that they aren't getting paid

Hong Kong?

the current protests

"As some netizens said: If the 1st year (of the epidemic) is panic, with some a little bit secretly delighted for being able to rest at home for a while, the 2nd year began to look confused, with people hoping that the epidemic quickly end. The 3rd year is about some complaints, (people wondering) when is the end.

In addition, some places have recently used the name of epidemic prevention to "increase the level (of control)", abusing their power and making things difficult for the masses, resulting in epidemic prevention becoming out of shape, and in some cases, while not saying they were implementing restrictions & control but they were actually doing it, disregarding the interests of the masses & people's demands, & arbitrarily interrupting the normal production and living order.

It damaged the image of the Party and the government & hurt the masses. There are even some people who take the opportunity to make money from the epidemic. Compared to the epidemic, these phenomena break people’s hearts. The ensuing people’s feelings of helplessness, tired & even anger are understandable.

Epidemic prevention & control is to prevent the virus, not to prevent people; there is no such thing as "epidemic prevention first" but "people first". No matter what kind of prevention & control measures are taken, they should be aimed at returning society to normal ASAP and getting life back on track as soon as possible. All options are "bridges" and "boats" to this goal, not simply to restrict people, regardless of the cost of blind brute force.

During this period, the World Cup in Qatar is in full swing. The crowd in audience didn’t wear masks, look at the scene of the revelry, everything seems to be no different from before the epidemic. Some people ask: "Many countries in the world now have everything as usual. They 'lie flat' and they survived. If they can 'let it go', why can't we?"

Let's look at the confirmed cases first. Up to now, there are 636 million new confirmed cases & over 6.6 million cumulative deaths worldwide, with 230,000 new confirmed cases and 428 deaths in a recent day. Among them, Japan, which has 126 million people, sees 98,000 new confirmed cases per day; South Korea has a population of more than 50 million people. It sees 47,000 new confirmed cases per day.

Second, regarding medical resources, this year China has 6.7 medical beds per 1,000 population, compared with 12.65 in South Korea, 12.63 in Japan and 7.82 in Germany in 2020. In 2020, China has 4.5 ICU beds per 100,000 people, Germany 28.2, the U.S. 21.6, France 16.4 and Japan 13.8, a global average of 10. Earlier this year, covid critically ill patients occupied 32.7% of the total ICU capacity in the U.S., and about 7 ICU beds per 100,000 people were crowded by covid critically ill patients, the number of which has exceeded the total number of ICU beds per 100,000 people in China.

As of the end of 2021, China's population aged 60 & above reached 267 million, & the population of children exceeded 250 million, so the size of "the elderly & the children" group is huge.

According to the latest data from Singapore, the mortality rate of infection among the elderly aged 60-69, 70-79 and 80 years old and above with vaccine protection is 0.014%, 0.064% and 0.54% respectively; the mortality rate of infection among the elderly in the three age groups without vaccine protection is 0.19%, 0.29% and 2.5% respectively. And the three age groups of elderly people who have not completed vaccination in China are about 22.64 million, 16.16 million and 14 million respectively.

If we completely lift all the restrictions now, according to the estimated mortality rate of infection in Singapore, the number of deaths in our country will reach about 600,000 for the elderly over 60 years old only.

China's social system, history and culture, values and ethics do not allow us to watch our fathers and grandfathers and children face death threats and simply give up. For example, in some Western countries, hundreds of people died in a single nursing home from an epidemic.

By understanding this, we can also understand our country's efforts to contain the epidemic. It is selective forgetfulness to envy the freedom and revelry of Western countries, but ignore the painful price they have paid. To talk about the "control" & "lifting restrictions" in isolation from China's national conditions and development reality is an empty proposition.

If we compare the epidemic to a rough river, in order to reach the other side, some countries choose to go into the water bare-chested, and let some people become sacrificial lambs, while China chooses to ride out the storm together, using a big boat to give everyone a chance to survive. When the big boat is difficult and gradually leaning towards the other side of the river, if blindly envious of those who have landed on the other side of the river and no longer work together to row the boat and choose to risk jumping ship, the results of the many efforts we made before may be lost.

Recently, the prevention and control policy deviated, deformed, out of shape, and even some tragedies which should not happen happened in some places in the implementation of the "dynamic zero-covid" process due to the problem of understanding, capacity, methods, and even the interests behind the problem.

The central government has set down the general policy of "dynamic zero-covid" and 20 measures to optimize prevention and control, but some localities have different interpretations, which greatly reduces the authority of the central policy. In some places, in the name of epidemic prevention, people's livelihood and economy are taken lightly, and some even tacitly agree that "only the COVID-019 is a disease, other diseases are irrelevant" in the implementation of policies, distorting the concept of "life first".

Some of them have added levels of restrictions to epidemic prevention, without laws and rules in sight, and even come up with various tricks to "deal" with the masses, breaking people’s hearts.

Why we can't lift all restrictions right away even though the death rate is low? Take vaccination for example, the booster vaccination rate for people over 80 years old in China is only 40%, the vaccination rate for children is not very high, and the overall immunization level of the whole population is not high either. Once there is a widespread infection, our medical resources may also face the risk of being instantly broken.

In some cases, it seems to be an innovative initiative, but in fact, it is “adding restrictions”; some local policy does not seem to be a "one-size-fits-all", but in fact, it is a concept of making a "one-size-fits-all".

In the end, it is a result of the officials' awareness of seeking the truth from facts being too weak, the spirit of taking charge being too weak, and the ability to move with the times being too weak. The introduction of each decision & the introduction of each initiative is after careful study and judgment, and specifically in the implementation stage, a more people-oriented orientation working style should be formed.

The existence of these problems cannot be ignored, but easily attributing everything to the "dynamic zero-covid" policy is also not in line with reality.

To carry over the current epidemic prevention and control policy is more like a "balance of interests and harms". We not only have to consider the livelihood of the people, political accounts & economic accounts but also have to achieve the "optimal solution" in the balance of multiple objective.

Why is it that sometimes what should be said is not said, and the "right thing" is not well said and not understood? Some party members and cadres are weak in the spotlight to carry out their work, either avoiding and dodging the concerns of the masses, or some press conferences said a lot, but it is not what the masses want to hear, or the normal people can understand. We have to expose those who shirk their responsibility. We have to remove those officials who cannot introduce the policy well from the press conferences, and invite those who can speak accurately about the policy to introduce the policy to give people more certainty, and the authority of the professional voice can be established.

The construction of the "big ship" of epidemic prevention and control is ultimately to carry more than 1.4 billion people to the other side smoothly. When the ship reaches turbulence, it needs to be united.

We have to believe that we will not keep drifting; as long as we are united, steady pace and rhythm, we will be able to get off the boat safely in the near future."

mp.weixin.qq.com/s/Inz_kORneG7QyEttAXnZzg
interesting stuff from the publicity department from zhejiang

i just keep finding better headlines

whos paying tho

Fake as hell

CHINA

George Soros and Sam Bankman-Fried

who knows

chinese leftists are going w the outside agitator line accompanied w videos of people speaking non local dialects

Well the Chinese leftists I'm looking at are going against this narrative

interesting mind sending it over

In a minute

This a good thread

This podcast too
bumingbai.net/2022/11/ep-027-china-protestors-text

... do you really think leftists take the line that marx engels lenin and stalin are foreign influences?

from what i can tell gleaming from left and non left sources is that the issues are that there are both adventurist and opportunist forces causing dysfunction in the covid regulation.

people either pushing complete zero covid too hard forcing people to lose their livelihoods and businesses on the one hand and opportunists lying to people and making a profit off the epidemicon the other hand. it seems like the localities can diverge from the central governments line significantly causing issues as well.

i saw a comment that said the deaths in the fire in urumqi were not even from covid restrictions but more so opportunists using the accident to agitate:
"The accident was caused by a problem with the community fire system, the door was not locked, But if someone wants to take advantage of the accident, the rumors will spread faster, they spread rumors that the tragedy happened because of the government's lock-down, and they want use the fire to create a color revolution across the country. The epidemic policy has indeed made life difficult for many people, but people's real appeal is to adjust the policy rather than subvert the government, because that will only make our lives more chaotic, but I have no doubt that some people want China to be chaotic, I can't stop laughiing when I hear that the protestors in Chengdu are paid 500 rmb once, these tactics are doomed to fail, the only effect is Give BBC NYT RFA more footage to attack China"

on one of the pics in that thread:

乌鲁木Qi的朋友
我爱你们
就像爱這条路
就像爱我的家人
2022.11.26. 上海

UrumQi (<- dunno how 2 write) friends
i love you all
just like i love this (<- lone word written in traditional chinese) road
just like i love my family members
2022.11.26\. Shanghai

everything just reeks of the hong kong protests even using the same "blank blank" protest and signs and imagery as well as propagation of videos

i think there was and is a need to reform the policies as stated in the publicity statement above, as it clearly has separated from the needs and desires of the masses but i dont really buy the protests being what westerners say they are at all

blue dream and lein back!

tbh the fact i havent seen any people holding up signs written in english is the only reason i don't think this is a psyop anytime someone is holding up english signs during a protest in a foreign country (ESPECIALLY ASIA) you know that s*** is astroturfed to hell and back

basically all of japanese society is based on consumerism rn. like moreso than america by such a massive margin its hard to really convey unless you've been there its actually pretty insane given the juxtaposition to importance of local norms

You misunderstand the tweet, the ppl in the video are not responding to someone calling Marx and Engels foreign influences, they are responding to people slandering the protesters as foreign puppets by sarcastically asking if Marx and Engels are those nefarious foreigners. The CPC and their supporters are not leftist, so it doesn't matter what their take is on this point.

That comment is wrong. Idk if the family whos been made famous by their death in the fire had their apartment door locked but it's not a matter of debate that COVID restrictions locked doors throughout the apartment, preventing people from escaping and firefighters from saving people while the building burned. He's clearly just a CPC shill, seeing as he's invoking the unfounded "protesters are just paid crisis actors" narrative. Most protesters simply want the existing government to change its policies, not all of them want outright revolution. But if they did, why would I be opposed to it? If Chinese ppl want to get rid of their government they would have plenty of valid reasons to do so. I'm not gonna sit here and try to portray defending Xi "Chinese workers are getting too lazy" Jinping and Li "China needs to liberalize its financial market" Keqiang as a socialist position.

The current approach to covid has clearly lost its initial popularity and justification as the burdens it's imposed on people have grown while its actual effectiveness has fallen. Cases are going up. The isolation/quarantine facilities are in terrible condition More and more people are stuck in long periods of time where they can't leave their house, can't work, and their needs arent being met by the gov. Others like manufacturing workers and students are told they cannot leave their work site/ university and are shoved into dilapidated dormitories. In the case of Foxconn or Tesla workers its practically forced labor. The protesters don't need "adventurist manipulators" to turn them against the current Covid policy, things like women being refused medical care because theyre in lockdown and a having miscarriage does more than enough. Every social grievance in China is chalked up to foreign saboteurs whether its labor organizing in Hong Kong or feminist activism for brides in rural Yunnan, it's rarely if ever said in good faith.

There is the problem that china doesn't have an effective vaccine, much of its at risk population is unvaccinated, and its skeletal private Healthcare system couldn't possibly handle the rise in covid cases that would follow a lifting of Zero Covid. But if the CPC nationalized and expanded healthcare, bought foreign mrna vaccines and carried out a vaccination campaign, it wouldn't need such strict policies that are now failing anyways! The Chinese government has seemingly endless funds for Real estate developers, they should put this money to socially useful objectives for once.