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  • Jun 20, 2024
    PFLP optimisticman

    Campism hurts the socialist cause. I just want you to know that

    Go write a twitlonger about it p****

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    PFLP optimisticman

    Campism hurts the socialist cause. I just want you to know that

    the soviet union doesnt exist anymore

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    mfs get banned off reddit and wanna talk about campism hurting the socialist cause please pick your battles

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    PFLP optimisticman

    I got banned from r/socialism for mentioning the Soviet Union unjustly invaded iran

    Occupying Iranian oil fields was done to prevent Germany from receiving oil during wartime, not to impose unequal exchange rates on Iranian production, nor to gain a monopoly in a foreign market. It wasn’t imperialist.

    The oppressed nations within Iran saw the Red Army as liberators, with the Azerbaijanis and the Kurdish establishing people's republics on a socialist basis within the Soviet occupied territories. They would later get crushed by the Pahlavi dynasty when the Red Army was forced to withdraw from Iran

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    Occupying Iranian oil fields was done to prevent Germany from receiving oil during wartime, not to impose unequal exchange rates on Iranian production, nor to gain a monopoly in a foreign market. It wasn’t imperialist.

    The oppressed nations within Iran saw the Red Army as liberators, with the Azerbaijanis and the Kurdish establishing people's republics on a socialist basis within the Soviet occupied territories. They would later get crushed by the Pahlavi dynasty when the Red Army was forced to withdraw from Iran

    Red army should have never stood on standby after ww2

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    Occupying Iranian oil fields was done to prevent Germany from receiving oil during wartime, not to impose unequal exchange rates on Iranian production, nor to gain a monopoly in a foreign market. It wasn’t imperialist.

    The oppressed nations within Iran saw the Red Army as liberators, with the Azerbaijanis and the Kurdish establishing people's republics on a socialist basis within the Soviet occupied territories. They would later get crushed by the Pahlavi dynasty when the Red Army was forced to withdraw from Iran

    Ok so for one I've already read this quote verbatim. Where did you copy it from?

    2. Invading a sovereign country for economic gain is ALWAYS imperialist. Either you don't know why the Soviet Union did it or you dont know what imperialism is

  • WRU

    the soviet union doesnt exist anymore

    I know that

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    Occupying Iranian oil fields was done to prevent Germany from receiving oil during wartime, not to impose unequal exchange rates on Iranian production, nor to gain a monopoly in a foreign market. It wasn’t imperialist.

    The oppressed nations within Iran saw the Red Army as liberators, with the Azerbaijanis and the Kurdish establishing people's republics on a socialist basis within the Soviet occupied territories. They would later get crushed by the Pahlavi dynasty when the Red Army was forced to withdraw from Iran

    It was also done so that Britain and the Soviets could establish trade routes. Economic gain + violence to protect capital equals imperialism

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    PFLP optimisticman

    Ok so for one I've already read this quote verbatim. Where did you copy it from?

    2. Invading a sovereign country for economic gain is ALWAYS imperialist. Either you don't know why the Soviet Union did it or you dont know what imperialism is

    They didn’t invade it for economic gain, they did it to prevent Iran and subsequent supply lines in the area from fall to Nazi Germany

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    They didn’t invade it for economic gain, they did it to prevent Iran and subsequent supply lines in the area from fall to Nazi Germany

    That's not true. I just replied with another comment

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    WRU

    mfs get banned off reddit and wanna talk about campism hurting the socialist cause please pick your battles

    I don't pick my battles when it comes to hypocrisy. People should learn what imperialism is and not defend it

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    PFLP optimisticman

    I don't pick my battles when it comes to hypocrisy. People should learn what imperialism is and not defend it

    hypocrisy, the worst crime in human history according to the internet

  • WRU

    hypocrisy, the worst crime in human history according to the internet

    I agree with the internet then. F*** campism. Its damaging to the left

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    PFLP optimisticman

    That's not true. I just replied with another comment

    How is it “not true”

    Were the Allied Powers not at war with Nazi Germany at the time? Iran was trying to remain neutral but was hosting German ambassadors at the time. There was genuine concern Iran would turn to the Axis Powers

    If Iran would have closed supplies lies in the Persian corridor that the Allies were using during Land-Lease than the trade routes would’ve had to be much longer, going around the Arctic or Pacific

    Denying enemy resources during wartime isn’t imperialism

    And the Soviets didn’t sell that oil at an up charge for profits

    Country invading another country isn’t imperialism.

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    How is it “not true”

    Were the Allied Powers not at war with Nazi Germany at the time? Iran was trying to remain neutral but was hosting German ambassadors at the time. There was genuine concern Iran would turn to the Axis Powers

    If Iran would have closed supplies lies in the Persian corridor that the Allies were using during Land-Lease than the trade routes would’ve had to be much longer, going around the Arctic or Pacific

    Denying enemy resources during wartime isn’t imperialism

    And the Soviets didn’t sell that oil at an up charge for profits

    Country invading another country isn’t imperialism.

    You don't know what imperialism is so I have recommended reading

    I think there is a definition and more elaboration in this book

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    PFLP optimisticman

    You don't know what imperialism is so I have recommended reading

    !https://youtu.be/swULKfLQ9t0?si=LkTztJohfOrIDGSy

    I think there is a definition and more elaboration in this book

    Was the USSR exporting Iranian oil at an up charge for super profits for the Soviet Union?

    Yes or no?

    Are you upset war doesn’t run smoothly like a Total War?

  • Jun 20, 2024
    Plight

    Red army should have never stood on standby after ww2

    should have stopped at Lisbon

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    Was the USSR exporting Iranian oil at an up charge for super profits for the Soviet Union?

    Yes or no?

    Are you upset war doesn’t run smoothly like a Total War?

    Are you playing dumb for the sake of the argument or do you not know that the Soviet Union allied with Britain to export capital under a monopoly?

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    Was the USSR exporting Iranian oil at an up charge for super profits for the Soviet Union?

    Yes or no?

    Are you upset war doesn’t run smoothly like a Total War?

    I can quote Lenins own definition of imperialism to you that is mentioned in the book

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    PFLP optimisticman

    Are you playing dumb for the sake of the argument or do you not know that the Soviet Union allied with Britain to export capital under a monopoly?

    God you are so f***ing dumb

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    PFLP optimisticman

    I can quote Lenins own definition of imperialism to you that is mentioned in the book

    Then keep reading books and stop bothering us

  • Plight

    God you are so f***ing dumb

    You don't have the basis to call me dumb you imperialist dog

  • Jun 20, 2024
    PFLP optimisticman

    Are you playing dumb for the sake of the argument or do you not know that the Soviet Union allied with Britain to export capital under a monopoly?

  • Plight

    Then keep reading books and stop bothering us

    So your admitting you have no factual basis?

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    I know supposed "marxists" it's hard to admit Stalin was wrong. But the truth will reach you some day