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  • Jul 17, 2021
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    Bestowed

    idk if I did already but shoutout to @spongebob , @ARCADE_GOON and others that contributed to the talk the other day. Much appreciated

    it’s because me and @ARCADE_GOON are the resident Dengists

  • Jul 17, 2021
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    americana

    Is it bad that I don’t read theory anymore?

    I understand all the basic mechanics regarding a lot of different power based relations around the world and i get what we need

    The reason I don’t read it though is because I’d rather work towards bringing class consciousness right now than having people read theory. Once we hit that consciousness I’d wanna hand it off to the academic marxists who can educate the people

    Ur alright if u got Marx and Lenin basics

    Be sure to read lenin if u havent

  • Jul 17, 2021
    Bestowed

    idk if I did already but shoutout to @spongebob , @ARCADE_GOON and others that contributed to the talk the other day. Much appreciated

    Real recognize real thats wassup

  • Jul 17, 2021
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    ARCADE GOON

    Ur alright if u got Marx and Lenin basics

    Be sure to read lenin if u havent

    I’ve read a bit of The State and the Revolution but overall I understand the role of a vanguard party and a revolution surrounding it

    I need to understand his viewpoint of a post revolutionary state tho

  • Jul 17, 2021
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    spongebob

    it’s because me and @ARCADE_GOON are the resident Dengists

    Lmao

    To anyone reading im not a dengist

  • Jul 17, 2021
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    americana

    I’ve read a bit of The State and the Revolution but overall I understand the role of a vanguard party and a revolution surrounding it

    I need to understand his viewpoint of a post revolutionary state tho

    State and Revolution
    Imperialism: The Highest Stage of Capitalism
    Left Communism: An Infantile Disorder

    Those 3

    All relatively short and precise
    Lenin a goat writer from style and prose

  • Jul 17, 2021
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    The idea by Lenin & Rosa Luxemburg that imperialism is a result of certain market mechanisms is very powerful, it's written in Marx but those two really emphasize it

    Specifically the rate of profit falling, war and "expanding into new markets" is a way of offsetting it

    Thats why capitalists get so mad when they cant sell their s*** in another country. For example I live in Germany and the German automakers really need Chinese markets nowadays or they'd be finished

  • Jul 17, 2021
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    ARCADE GOON

    State and Revolution
    Imperialism: The Highest Stage of Capitalism
    Left Communism: An Infantile Disorder

    Those 3

    All relatively short and precise
    Lenin a goat writer from style and prose

    I’ll go through it

    How short of a read are they?

  • Jul 17, 2021
    americana

    I’ll go through it

    How short of a read are they?

    ~100 pages each with generous font

  • Jul 17, 2021
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    americana

    I’ll go through it

    How short of a read are they?

    Also much easier to read than Marx

    Marx has the german style of long sentences with thousand side clauses which gets weird in english

    Luckily i can read german, kapital in english is hard kinda

    Also he uses some words that are really hard to translate

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    ARCADE GOON

    Also much easier to read than Marx

    Marx has the german style of long sentences with thousand side clauses which gets weird in english

    Luckily i can read german, kapital in english is hard kinda

    Also he uses some words that are really hard to translate

    That’s very true

    My read of Capital was the Anglicized version with additional a***ysis and commentary that released quite recently because the original made no sense

  • Jul 17, 2021
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    ARCADE GOON

    State and Revolution
    Imperialism: The Highest Stage of Capitalism
    Left Communism: An Infantile Disorder

    Those 3

    All relatively short and precise
    Lenin a goat writer from style and prose

    Downloaded PDFs I’ll begin my reads tomorrow

  • Jul 17, 2021
    ARCADE GOON

    Lmao

    To anyone reading im not a dengist

  • Jul 17, 2021
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    americana

    Downloaded PDFs I’ll begin my reads tomorrow

    This pamphlet was written in August and September 1917. I had already drawn up the plan for the next, the seventh chapter, "The Experience of the Russian Revolutions of 1905 and 1917". Apart from the title, however, I had no time to write a single line of the chapter; I was "interrupted" by a political crisis--the eve of the October revolution of 1917. Such an "interruption" can only be welcomed; but the writing of the second part of this pamphlet ("The Experience of the Russian Revolutions of 1905 and 1917") will probably have to be put off for a long time. It is more pleasant and useful to go through the "experience of revolution" than to write about it.

    The Author

    Petrograd
    November 30, 1917

    One of the hardest flexes OAT :pog:

  • Jul 17, 2021
    ARCADE GOON

    This pamphlet was written in August and September 1917. I had already drawn up the plan for the next, the seventh chapter, "The Experience of the Russian Revolutions of 1905 and 1917". Apart from the title, however, I had no time to write a single line of the chapter; I was "interrupted" by a political crisis--the eve of the October revolution of 1917. Such an "interruption" can only be welcomed; but the writing of the second part of this pamphlet ("The Experience of the Russian Revolutions of 1905 and 1917") will probably have to be put off for a long time. It is more pleasant and useful to go through the "experience of revolution" than to write about it.

    The Author

    Petrograd
    November 30, 1917

    One of the hardest flexes OAT :pog:

    That’s a FLEX

  • Jul 17, 2021
    americana

    Is it bad that I don’t read theory anymore?

    I understand all the basic mechanics regarding a lot of different power based relations around the world and i get what we need

    The reason I don’t read it though is because I’d rather work towards bringing class consciousness right now than having people read theory. Once we hit that consciousness I’d wanna hand it off to the academic marxists who can educate the people

    I don't read theory anymore but I read books which use socialist logic or books which are use a historical materialist perspective

    Stuff like

    The Jakarta Method

    How Europe Underdeveloped Africa

    Night Vision, Illuminating War And Class on the Neocolonial Terrain

    From Victory To Defeat, Chinas Reversal

    More palatable, more enjoyable, and I feel like I learn more than rereading theory

  • Jul 17, 2021

    New black red guard and rev left collab🤞

  • Jul 17, 2021
    ARCADE GOON

    State and Revolution
    Imperialism: The Highest Stage of Capitalism
    Left Communism: An Infantile Disorder

    Those 3

    All relatively short and precise
    Lenin a goat writer from style and prose

    fr Lenin was an amazing writer. really enjoyable to read. great sense of humor that comes thru in his writing too which I didn’t expect

  • Jul 17, 2021

    Everyone should also read revolutionary suicide

  • Jul 17, 2021
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    Lenin era of constantly dunking on kautsky

  • Jul 17, 2021
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    p apollo

    Lenin era of constantly dunking on kautsky

    Can u elaborate

  • Jul 17, 2021
    p apollo

    Lenin era of constantly dunking on kautsky

    I knew a dude irl who was a kautskyite

    Dude was a weirdo tbqh

    Had a big argument with him

  • Jul 17, 2021
    americana

    Can u elaborate

    basically at one point kautsky was one of the more well known proponents of orthodox marxism and lenin actually praised him in earlier writings but at a certain point lenin believed that he went the opportunist route, and from that point forward he spent a lot of time s***ting on him in his writings and they went back and forth beefing

  • Jul 17, 2021
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    its wild how kautsky in his era actually had a lot of influence but at this point he's only known from getting smoked by lenin he did go out sad though

  • Jul 17, 2021
    americana

    Can u elaborate

    Like 10% of Lenin's writing is s***ting on kautsky