Hyper level of communication like an intertwined network an Inter-Net

Infrastructure

so ok we'll go with the internet, why do we need the state to centrally plan when we can just talk to each other and secure our own s***?

Because you’d be acting in self interest and not collective interest

why is the state the real arbiter of the collective interests?

everyone has different preferences, people can organise themselves accordingly, there is also a non zero chance this state gets hijacked by a self serving bureacracy (again)

In theory yes but there's a lot of weird s*** about trots like their connection to neocons

I think hitchens for example was a trot before he turned neocon

Cybernetics

Shoutout Allende and project cybersyn

We never got to see it in practice bc amerikkkan intervation tho

tru heard about s*** about em like entryism, think the trot neocon thing is mainly just a meme based of a few historical people that really don’t have an impact on the current day trot movement though

Oh yeah it's not like regular trots these days are closet neocons but there was definitely some history

def wasn't me, I haven't actually ever been to uni on campus. I'm a senior in college atm but have taken everything online/at a community college. I'm gonna be attending in person for my last year.

All my organizing experience comes from working class areas in a major city.

Honestly, have never met a trot don't think they're a big factor when it comes to communists in 2021

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Trot to neocon pipeline was real in the USA

Germany had a maoist to neolib pipeline

To be fair MLs ended up with yeltsin

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@Synopsis I‘m really interested in the ideology of Communism/Socialism even though I‘m anti-communist & anti-capitalist - do you know any books I could read that you would view as neutral?

No I dont

Why are you anti communist

On the ideology of communism it'll be hard to find any neutral readings

Some historians like j arch getty good tho if u wanna learn abt the history

Also like synopsis said why are you anti communist, and if u are also anti capitalist, what do you advocate for?

@Synopsis

I‘m anti-capitalism because Inequality creates social division & the rich are exploiting the poor.

And I‘m not really anti-communist because of the idea. I‘m more against followers who deny the killing of Uyghur muslims or act like some leaders who killed many people were gods just because they want to defend their ideology. And mostly because of radical lefts in my home country (Turkey) and their support of terrorist organizations like the PKK. (Before you try to argue against me yes I‘m against Erdogan and turkish nationalism too). And I‘m not against Kurds I like the Peshmerga for example. Plus I don‘t fw the idea that businesses are ultimately owned by the government and I want personal property.

I just think there is no perfect system or ideology for human nature because we are too complex. Maybe in the future - I hope so.