Like I said, thats the hard truth. 90% of the time I see socialists get in this exact discussion and they try to pander to someones beliefs. "well maybe we can have luxury cars if this this and this occur" or some s*** like "well everyone might have this luxury so it wont necessarily be a luxury but youll have it"

like nah. just be honest. your passion is ferraris and lambos? thats tough lol can't say we're very concerned about that. youre taking it more personally than he is

Exactly. Humans are naturally inclined to form intrinsic and lasting relationships and aren’t really that big on everpresent material consumption

Precisely

well ur more likely to be able to follow a passion such as music under socialism thats for sure

yea it sounds like a decent idea but I have to look more into it

i mean you could follow it under capitalism too but youd just be left for dead if you failed

Frankito constantly harasses me and other Muslims simply for being Muslim so that’s why I go at him the way I do. You on the other hand just talk s*** and act like you’re a f***ing genius but can’t even give people who question you straight answers.

how could socialism be incorporated into the music industry for example

Block button isn't hard to find lol, you could stop seeing his posts right now if you were so inclined. Youre the only one taking that post as "talking s***"

no idea, some people think certain forms of music would be gone completely (not sure much about rap anymore but for example when a major theme in rap was growing up in poverty and overcoming struggle, that experience may not exist in a socialist society)

but you could prolly have some national or state institutes that funds projects, and then the artist would just own the sales? or you could nationalize record and distribution labels??

i don't know how exactly music industry works now but we wouldn't see anything predatory and exploitative like spotify

Didn’t say that specific post was "talking s***" but you are a smug a****** who talks about socialism on here but gets pissed when someone actually tries learning from you because you know that you aren’t mature or smart enough to teach.

let those feelings out my guy ain't gonna offend me none lmao

u on some metaphysics of banana s*** rn i fw it

lirl oh my god bruh

lmfao

Sorry I have people in real life who aren't predisposed to reactionary nonsense that I would rather teach and talk with, but i guess all the posters who have thanked me for teaching/talking with them don't exist anymore. this is ktt, do well to remember that. or maybe we should have a running list of all the people we've converted to socialism on this site lmao

damn.

@NeonBuddy art and writing are better examples to use cuz the music industry is so complex, but lets say you were some guy at a job and said hey im gonna write a book. you could take your idea to some national institute, maybe even a sample and they could say hey we'll publish this.

in the end there might need to be some sort of board? the thing is art is subjective end of the day so people can't be confused into thinking they'd just get to live and die making music that no one listens to without making some other sort of contribution to the community

I genuinely believe we can see steps toward in our lifetime and if socialism can be considered the post-capitalist process towards an equitable society then it's worth fighting for

gotta acknowledge the small victories to keep from being hopeless but recognize its always a fight and always more to do

lenin didn’t think he’d ever see a revolution in his life until 2 years later

but will revolution happen in this day and age?

Depends on which nation tbh. But assuming you live in America then it’s a big hell no.

I wouldn't say "hell no" for the US. Not likely tho

that depends capitalism will always create the objective requirements for a revolution due to its unstable nature (recessions and depressions) but you still need the subjective forces (communists) to take advantage of this.

After the 2008 crisis the occupy wall street movement happened i don’t think it’s a coincidence that right after that class politcs have been erased and completely replaced with identity politics.

There’s also on going peoples war right now in India with the Naxales and the CPP in the philippines

what the f*** went on in here