look it up. youre basing your whole views of communism on it lmao so maybe do some research

So what do yall think of when u think of socialism

Theory? Countries that put it into practice? Small implementations of socialist based policy?

I'm in the U.S. so we have a limited history of it even being considered non-heresy to discuss in a positive light, at least as far as mid 20th century to now, but wondering what it means 2 u

obv unfettered capitalism aint it, as we can see from the disgusting wealth inequality and inefficiency as well as lack of better regulation on those who hoard the most

ayo idk why yall still dont have homie blocked I have since the george floyd thread lol

Many of the Eastern bloc countries preferred their conditions under communism.

Tons of polls done about this

Nah it isn't fiction. There're some questionable sources, but labeling everything as fiction is just asinine.

idk how ppl could read the communist manifesto and not think:

this s*** kinda fire

The majority of my views on communism are based on people I’ve spoken too in real life about it

Solzhenitsyn just summed it up well in one book

hmm i dont think so

which book are you talking about

I don’t blame them, at least there was some sense of security. Many of them were also born into that system so it was all they knew/what they were used to

Unfortunately now they’ve got to pick up the pieces

Gulag archipelago

so your understanding of communism is all from a critique of labor camps and authoritarianism - not the actual theories and ideas of socialism or communism

I can tell you haven’t read it then

Capitalism is no better than communism if it’s corrupt and authoritarian, I’m not arguing with you here

It’s more than a critique of communism/socialism

It’s a critique of ideological social engineering in general

Just because a company exists doesn’t mean it’s actually needed. Like we don’t actually NEED random s*** delivered to us in 2 days. People pay for it because of the convenience, but those jobs aren’t “needed” for a functioning society

not taking sides here but Chinese and Russian culture is much more distinct then western culture in general

like what is American culture, its only be around for what 250 years now and has changed rapidly their isn't any tradition unlike China

its same as Australia we just take from other countries and its just this melting pot of different ideas and cultures

If you produce less value then what you consume, it has to be at somebody else's cost by definition.

@LuxuryWhip Why do you view communism as a static thing?

Capitalism has existed for hundreds of years and was the direct successor to feudalism, it's been tried hundreds of times.

It hasn't even been hundred years since the end of the Russian civil war and communism has only been attempted a handful of times since then. It's had it's failures and successes. But we can learn from them and the next Socialist country can avoid those mistakes.

can i ask question

whats everyones opinion of getting rid of private and religious schools and making everyone go to just to local state school?

Sounds like a good argument against the capitalist class

That's not for you to decide, value is subjective and decided by supply and demand. But either way, what about jobs like farming and construction work? Who's going to do those?

I don’t necessarily view it as a static thing

But I feel that what it lacks at its core is a consideration of the inherent value of the individual

By its nature it relies on collectivism, it relies on making everybody ‘equal’ via arbitrary categorisation of people. Because of that it can never truly succeed

Capitalism succeeds and fails also, but capitalism is more conducive with western values of individual value, that’s why it’s always resulted in countries that are much better off overall

I think people/parents should be allowed to choose what kind of education their children receive