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    americana

    “Authoritarianism” is not a real thing

    All states rule on authority

    man’s posting like countries that he support that aren’t “authoritarian” like england and usa haven’t been bullying or allowing people from their ruling class bully weaker nations like the iraq war of Libya

  • Jul 31, 2022

    or like Bill Gates sterilizing indian women without their consent man liberals are trash

  • Jul 31, 2022
    Womanpuncher69

    man’s posting like countries that he support that aren’t “authoritarian” like england and usa haven’t been bullying or allowing people from their ruling class bully weaker nations like the iraq war of Libya

    Some states are more authoritarian because their leaders are meanies and not because of the material conditions of constantly being under siege with half the world trying to coup your government

  • Jul 31, 2022
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    i welcome a nuclear holocaust as long as the first nukes land on England or Bill Gates personal house

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    Womanpuncher69

    i welcome a nuclear holocaust as long as the first nukes land on England or Bill Gates personal house

    dap and rep for saying england and not wales, comrade 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿✊

  • Jul 31, 2022
    Womanpuncher69

    man’s posting like countries that he support that aren’t “authoritarian” like england and usa haven’t been bullying or allowing people from their ruling class bully weaker nations like the iraq war of Libya

    France isn’t authoritarian

    “Mali sounds”

  • Jul 31, 2022
    Drogon

    dap and rep for saying england and not wales, comrade 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿✊

    the welish and irish never colonized India i don’t got beef with em !

  • Jul 31, 2022
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    americana

    “Authoritarianism” is not a real thing

    All states rule on authority

    There's a definetely a scale of force and consent

  • Jul 31, 2022
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    emo genghis khan

    idk how i can convince people that "gentle capitalism" doesn't exist

    What do you mean

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    the reds

    There's a definetely a scale of force and consent

    State structures can’t exist without some sort of popular consent, even the oligarchical ones

    And we may ask “why would a states that oppresses its own people exist with their popular support?” But we can look at the United States to see this contradiction occur firsthand

  • Jul 31, 2022
    space0cadet

    What do you mean

    Nordic model

  • Jul 31, 2022
    americana

    State structures can’t exist without some sort of popular consent, even the oligarchical ones

    And we may ask “why would a states that oppresses its own people exist with their popular support?” But we can look at the United States to see this contradiction occur firsthand

    And I feel as though this is a contradiction that, if not solved, becomes a major contributor to fascist thought

  • Jul 31, 2022
    Womanpuncher69

    wrong thread, next time you think of posting please think of it belongs itt or the one i’m going to link

    https://ktt2.com/social-democracy-and-social-liberalism-thread-93589

  • Jul 31, 2022
    americana

    State structures can’t exist without some sort of popular consent, even the oligarchical ones

    And we may ask “why would a states that oppresses its own people exist with their popular support?” But we can look at the United States to see this contradiction occur firsthand

    well there's a difference between viewing a state or authority as "legitimate" and viewing a state or authority as representative. popular support isn't necessarily needed for the affirmation of something existing whether or not you believe yourself to be part of that in-group/out-group or not.

    even the most out of their mind esoteric neonazis or the most obtuse anarchists still recognize the US as a state power they live under. even people who say stuff like "not my president" or something still are ultimately acknowledging a state conceptually even if they attempt (barely lol) to reject those in power; similarly, those who seek to undermine a state still ultimately recognize the state exists hence why they wish to undermine it (or destroy it). It's not too dismilar from how people hate police or other authorities are likely going to listen to them anyway if they're pulled over or being served something - there's more to it than the show of force or fact that the officer has a gun or whatever. It's a wider social acknowledgement of role which captures a population wider and more influential than just an individual

    i'm not sure if i'd say it's "popular consent" that determines a state as much as it is social conditioning. while en-masse, to some degree, yes, there is an abstract "consent", it's not really a "decision" of "consent/non-consent" as much as a latent acceptance of an assumed structure

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    Womanpuncher69

    man’s posting like countries that he support that aren’t “authoritarian” like england and usa haven’t been bullying or allowing people from their ruling class bully weaker nations like the iraq war of Libya

    It's all bad lol

    I only really speak on ukraine now anyway

    Also I'm no fan of Bill Gates cause I dont like billionaires but youre gonna need some proof on that sterilisation claim

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    TragedyBerlusconi

    It's all bad lol

    I only really speak on ukraine now anyway

    Also I'm no fan of Bill Gates cause I dont like billionaires but youre gonna need some proof on that sterilisation claim

    freepressjournal.in/viral/arrestbillgates-heres-why-indians-are-enraged-at-gates-foundation

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    Scratchin Mamba

    https://www.freepressjournal.in/viral/arrestbillgates-heres-why-indians-are-enraged-at-gates-foundation

    “Five were evidently unrelated to the vaccine: One girl drowned in a quarry; another died from a snake bite; two committed suicide by ingesting pesticides; and one died from complications of malaria. The causes of death for the other two girls were less certain: one possibly from pyrexia, or high fever, and a second from a suspected cerebral hemorrhage.” ( here )

    Many reasons to hate gates but I'm sus of the truth of this one. Its always better to keep it factual regardless

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    TragedyBerlusconi

    It's all bad lol

    I only really speak on ukraine now anyway

    Also I'm no fan of Bill Gates cause I dont like billionaires but youre gonna need some proof on that sterilisation claim

    yeah but one can easily see the difference in attitude u have towards tony blair regime and putins when discussing their wars, it’s easy to say it’s all bad or u hate billionaires when all the plolitical action you support just end up profiting these people more like rich weapon manufacturers

    and u can speak more than ukraine look at the middle east only democracy starting to murder kids in Palestine once again or prob just getting more outreach in the west and never truly stopped or in the worlds biggest democracy in India committing genocide against the Adavasi people for mining companies to use their land.

    and here cracker
    pop.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/USAID%20sterilization%20report.pdf

  • Jul 31, 2022

    crazy how i tried to look for that again i was bombarded by fact checkers tm when i searched up bill gates sterilization a few years ago that was the first result

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    TragedyBerlusconi

    “Five were evidently unrelated to the vaccine: One girl drowned in a quarry; another died from a snake bite; two committed suicide by ingesting pesticides; and one died from complications of malaria. The causes of death for the other two girls were less certain: one possibly from pyrexia, or high fever, and a second from a suspected cerebral hemorrhage.” ( here )

    Many reasons to hate gates but I'm sus of the truth of this one. Its always better to keep it factual regardless

    Source is Bill Gates foundation news letter or what

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    Womanpuncher69

    yeah but one can easily see the difference in attitude u have towards tony blair regime and putins when discussing their wars, it’s easy to say it’s all bad or u hate billionaires when all the plolitical action you support just end up profiting these people more like rich weapon manufacturers

    and u can speak more than ukraine look at the middle east only democracy starting to murder kids in Palestine once again or prob just getting more outreach in the west and never truly stopped or in the worlds biggest democracy in India committing genocide against the Adavasi people for mining companies to use their land.

    and here cracker
    https://www.pop.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/USAID%20sterilization%20report.pdf

    F*** Tony Blair he's a ghoul. Im glad he was forced out. He was either an idiot or an evil idiot with a messiah complex. The man's gone and labour is now led entirely by people who either opposed or were not in politics at the time of Iraq. Its not justice but that's not what I support

    I dont support Israeli settlements or Hindu nationalism either. I'm especially interested in Ukraine as it is closer to home to me, I seldom of ever comment on the others and when I do I tend to be instinctively pro palestine

  • Jul 31, 2022
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    Scratchin Mamba

    Source is Bill Gates foundation news letter or what

    Reuters

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    TragedyBerlusconi

    Reuters

    Link

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    Scratchin Mamba

    Link

    science.org/content/article/indian-parliament-comes-down-hard-cervical-cancer-trial-rev2

    This is the source reuters cited. Indian parliament claimed the organisation wasn't complicit in the deaths. Will edit with a link to reuters

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    TragedyBerlusconi

    https://www.science.org/content/article/indian-parliament-comes-down-hard-cervical-cancer-trial-rev2

    This is the source reuters cited. Indian parliament claimed the organisation wasn't complicit in the deaths. Will edit with a link to reuters

    That's not what the Indian government said lmao learn how to read illiterate ass mf