why i don't like is trickle down economics and the push of neo liberalism and this idea of socialism for rich capitalism for poor type thing which is America and slowly Australia is turning into

@LuxuryWhip what trade do you do?

What @LuxuryWhip said above, competence hierarchies are desirable for maximum productivity. Isn't it counterproductive to have an engineer working construction instead of having him work on automating it? And the free market is the best tool in deciding who's the most qualified at a particular job, so everybody's better off in the long run.

Maximizing productivity of a super small part of the population when most people have to do some bullshit menial job to pay rent seems like not seeing the forest for the trees

Because I’ve spent a lot of time around exactly those kinds of people that you seem to think don’t exist

I spent a lot of my time in my young years with friends of mine who lived in public housing, roof caving in, cat piss all over the floors and furniture, living off of crap food

You people think you can apply low resolution generalities to people and think you can understand the complex natures of the lives of individual people

I’m an apprentice electrician

There are people that are motivated by being poor, sure. There are also just poor people that happen to be motivated. None of that changes the fact that poverty envelopes most people that experience it

fair enough

Sure, I’m not arguing against that

What do you mean? For productiveness to be a thing you have to able to provide some kind of value back to the people. The fact that you can buy food in a grocery store is because somebody is producing it. You get the food, they get the money, which you earned by producing some kind of value yourself.

Also, working those menial jobs isn't a life sentence. You can save up, acquire a skill, start a business, invest, etc. And most of the time, the fact that you have to work at those jobs means you aren't able to find an alternative because you lack the skill for whatever reason. So those jobs are better than nothing until you gain competence for something more high paying.

Exactly it’s a very new system and it has only been tried a few times. When it’s been tried it’s usually been done by very poor countries who then receive massive opposition from the US

Sigh. I'm not a Marxist but explain your criticisms of the ideology.

Not the regimes, the ideology itself.

And you're just going all over with this vocabulary.

All communists aren't Marxist-Leninists or Stalinists. The point is that people who call themselves as such believe under these ideologies true Liberation and equality can happen. It's not an option under capitalism.

Nobody thinks if you make a country a shade of communist it's all fairies and rainbows. It's just a better system to attempt to achieve true egalitarianism. Egalitarianism isn't even possible under capitalism.

It’s built on foundation on which it assumes anybody who has amassed wealth has only done so because they have stolen it from those that don’t have has much

It then tells those that don’t have as much, that they are morally obligated to take what’s been stolen from them back

Hence it inevitably creates a society where poor people who have never done anything good with their lives other than harbour resentment are suddenly justified in being allowed to enact the wrath of their envy upon those who worked hard/smart and managed to forge success for themselves

That’s why in my eyes it’s built upon resentment.

Obviously these kinds of poor people are a minority. But it doesn’t change the fact that it results in a society that is built on a warped sense of morality. It’s immoral

The west is an egalitarian society

If you don’t think so, you’ve been lied to

I don't like this post.

Indigenous American, Mexican, Black American, Jamaican & Mexican American cultures are influential around the world.

And they are all just as valid as any other cultures that have been around longer.

Cholo/a (a subset of Mexican American; aka Chicano/a culture ) culture is super popular in places like Japan... Those dudes even get low riders I think and gang tattoos that only exist in Cholo/a culture. Thats just one example.

All Russian culture isn't the same, and all Chinese culture isn't the same. Different ethnic groups have different cultures and different languages, etc,.

Okay so either you're trolling or you haven't read the very basic of communist theory.

We are the most egalitarian society the world has ever seen

There’s no such thing as 100% equality

i think i meant something else but i agree what you said

but i am more meaning like modern western culture like what is actually Australian culture if Australian culture for 40000 years was indigenous Australian culture which they tried wipe out even to this day through destroying sites

I hope that one day Australian culture will resemble a fusion between western and indigenous influences

i hope also

but multiculturalism also has improved Australia heavily (Sydney is second most multicultural city in the world)

do you believe there are problems in the west? examples such as wealth inequality, social inequality, homelessness, systemic racism, etc

of course, all of the above.

i dont believe in systemic racism though

Can’t believe I spent time going back and forth with you