Hands On and God Is without a doubt are two best songs on this album and as far as we know, were untouched throughout this whole process. Closed on Sunday, you can complain about the Chick-Fil-A corniness but at least sounds like a finished song, was also on the OG tracklist posted in August and hasn't changed from listening party to listening party. Selah is a pretty good track, obviously Kanye re-did almost all of the vocals but again, from the original tracklist. Even Water which I ended up liking more than I thought I would. Everything from that original tracklist is a good to incredible song, everything that wasn't on that tracklist ranges from bad to mediocre.

jesus christ did the laundry

What happened was that moron of a pastor came in and told him to rap more instead of keep the original vibes

oh, you on to something

wait what's the argument of this thread? is it just that the remaining songs from the 1st kim k tracklist are better than the others?

Its a weird one. I dont think an album actually existed on August 29th besides some thoughts and ideas plus a stash of nearly a year old music that would later make up most of this album
You could criticise the creation of ye for being rushed, but it had a consistent group of talented people working together for 2 weeks straight and actually came together very well, this has great production ideas and good themes lyrically but didnt have that focus to bring it all together with little decisions like fixing phrasing, doing more takes, intros/outros etc.
It was more impulse based, and Kanye didnt have a consistent team working with him to get it all together as well as he normally does

I'm still loving it

Honestly I'm not too sure about this one. Obviously I don't think Kanye had a full album ready to go and was waiting but imo having a full 12 song tracklist means that there was more to it than just ideas floating around, he at the very least had skeletons of those songs.

Even if you wanna debate quality, it can't be argued that the 2 songs that were on that original tracklist and survived all the way through without change are the 2 that sound the most finished and fleshed out. I have a hard time believing that it's not something more than a coincidence.

Yooooooo

Yeah I think he would've had skeletons for those tracks and ideas of hooks and production

Through the Valley was on the tracklist days after Momo played it at Sunday Service because Kim heard it at and said it was a beautiful song, think that shows that there wasnt a whole lot of thought put into the tracks being on the album tho

I think this is a great album just missing Ye having his whole production, engineering, writing team etc. together with him for the last month to make his vision come together neater

this album is dying out for a 2.0 update to be done...and he could do it with streaming being how it is.

I bet on god bars were created on Wednesday though...correct me if im wrong but the verse wasn't played in Washington listening party. and my god...is it bad.

I just want the first album

What happened is that Pastor Adam convinced Kanye to rap on the album.

Kanyes voice cracked on God Is for ur sins ! repent !

yeSAC the interesting thing about your post is I have seen people say almost the opposite as far as ye being cohesive vs JIK being cohesive. So I guess it depends on your point of view.

I think even a critic review said sort of what you said, and a different critic review said the opposite of what you said i.e that JIK is really cohesive and ye wasn't.

I happen to find them both very well put together all throughout. and Glad you're loving it! it's good to be back on KTT I lost my old KTT account password/or something and that was before 2014/2015 or so, something like that it's been a while anyways.

On God and Follow God are top 5 of the album tho

You make a good point and I too wonder what happen to In the Valley.

What you think is the reason we never got that?

Cus on one hand okay maybe he put it on the tracklist as an idea?
But did he not expand on that idea? Did it not work out the way he wanted?

It just seems weird to me that he would hear someone else’s song and just say “ok a Kanye version of this song gonna be on my album” without even attempting to turn it into a track

Oh god has been played at other listening parties. Whatever one Swizz was at he played it there. Think NY?