at this point just make the ability to outright pay lump-sums for visibility or placements this barely even makes sense by company profitability standards
I think that would give us the answer on if people pay for their streams or not. I mean with the AI and if this idea ever gets adopted, there will be no more stars unless you have a good voice.. you would have to work for years doing this and another job to pay for good streams or know someone who would invest in you just because it would be accessible to everyone. It would be saturation to the game honestly.
Pip pip cheerio, mate, why are you complaining about artists having more exposure?
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They aren’t really getting more exposure this way, they’re just preventing themselves from getting less exposure
You’re still competing with such a massive number of artists that you will still have the same slim chance of getting any sort of notice because there’s only so much time people listen to music
And that wouldnt even start diving into how much Spotify would take out of your pocket
What we do is we have more artists having exposure
That’s not how the math works
im sayin nothing wrong with this it helps new artists
I guess we will have to see because it seems to me like it will only help out a little bit
These DSPs will fall and burn in hell for the havoc they have caused to creatives
I dont think this is true at all but I might be wrong. Rappers in Netherlands were struggling so bad before streaming and now theres a bunch of millionaires
Idk how y’all think it’s feasible to pay all of these artists extremely high numbers when people are paying $5 a month. Think about how many artists and songs you listen to a month, and how that $5 would be broken up
Spotify spends 75% of their revenue on royalties. The engineering behind Spotify is complicated, and the reason it’s one the of the most popular is because of how good their team is at building a product.
It’s just how it is.
That’s not how the math works
What math?
Say you’re not discovered through the discovery algorithm they release, you get paid the same amount of money if someone finds you elsewhere. So idk what your point is
These DSPs will fall and burn in hell for the havoc they have caused to creatives
The havoc came from inheriting the previous generation of label institutions
What math?
Say you’re not discovered through the discovery algorithm they release, you get paid the same amount of money if someone finds you elsewhere. So idk what your point is
So if you’re competing with the 11,000,000 active artists currently on Spotify, and you pay to instead be competing with 1,000,000 instead in some new payola tier, is there really a fundamental difference that is worth it, especially when you’re probably giving up 20% of your streaming income to Spotify, not even discussing profit?
Idk how y’all think it’s feasible to pay all of these artists extremely high numbers when people are paying $5 a month. Think about how many artists and songs you listen to a month, and how that $5 would be broken up
Spotify spends 75% of their revenue on royalties. The engineering behind Spotify is complicated, and the reason it’s one the of the most popular is because of how good their team is at building a product.
It’s just how it is.
Does spotify even make profit?
So if you’re competing with the 11,000,000 active artists currently on Spotify, and you pay to instead be competing with 1,000,000 instead in some new payola tier, is there really a fundamental difference that is worth it, especially when you’re probably giving up 20% of your streaming income to Spotify, not even discussing profit?
You’re most likely making additional revenue that you wouldn’t have seen before.
If a friend sends you a new song, or you listen to it in your new situationship playlist, or you see it on tiktok, that artist will still make the same money. It’s only when you play the song in the discovery feature that they’ll make less.
So 90% of the time you’re listening to it, you’re probably not hearing it through the discovery.
Would you rather have < 1,000 streams or 100,000?
Say this new algo works really well and people are listening to a wider range of artists, it’ll probably cost more for Spotify to pay out.
You can be a d*** and say I don’t understand statistics, but so far I don’t think you’ve understood my point.
truly impressive how you manage to embarrass yourself by bringing up nicki minaj in every thread you enter
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how would you know if you're a new account? #obsessed
Which part was barbz lingo
I think most of the convo itt been going over your head because this is something that concerns artists who aren’t pop artists and you’re a pop stan
i literally said i was joking 🙃
Convo clearly over YOUR head.
They aren’t really getting more exposure this way, they’re just preventing themselves from getting less exposure
You’re still competing with such a massive number of artists that you will still have the same slim chance of getting any sort of notice because there’s only so much time people listen to music
And that wouldnt even start diving into how much Spotify would take out of your pocket
Smaller artists would be getting more exposure though. Someone who has say 5000 people who constantly listen to there music could now have music be shared with more users.
So if you’re competing with the 11,000,000 active artists currently on Spotify, and you pay to instead be competing with 1,000,000 instead in some new payola tier, is there really a fundamental difference that is worth it, especially when you’re probably giving up 20% of your streaming income to Spotify, not even discussing profit?
Yes, especially if you are a smaller artist. A smaller artist making less than few thousand. Being able to reach more people can help build your fanbase which could grow social media and get sponsors/ads. Also if you arn't making much money off of it anyway why not try and reach as many people as possible.