Is drake even in competition with the weeknd anymore at this point?
Is drake even in competition?
Drake’s next project is not clearing 400K. His ceiling for his next one is 325K.
His studio albums have slowly but consistently trended downward in first week sales with every album since Views:
Views: 1 million
Scorpion: 732K
CLB: 603K
Honestly, Nevermind: 204K (dance album)
For All the Dogs: 402K
His next one should sell somewhere between 300K and 325K first week.
And that’s not true about Weeknd. The only album of his that benefitted from bundles was After Hours.
BBTM did 412K and Starboy did 366K both without bundles, and MDM did 169K as well.
i think u are right in the sense that drake will prob sell around ~400k again maybe slightly less
but the difference in sales will always come down to physicals, which drake does not release
for example, weeknd is no where on the top 20 biggest album debut weeks for streaming, becuase a lot of his sales come from physicals which allows him to still have massive first weeks similar to trav
not saying 1 is better than the other, just giving a breakdown on the differences
ktt2.com/biggest-streaming-weeks-on-the-billboard-200-76952
1. The Tortured Poets Department - 891 million
2. Scorpion - 745 million
3. Certified Lover Boy - 743 million
4. Midnights - 549 million
5. For All the Dogs - 514 million
6. Her Loss - 513 million
7. One Thing at a Time - 498 million
8. Tha Carter V - 433 million
9. Beerbongs & Bentleys - 431 million
10. The Tortured Poets Department (2nd week) - 428 million
11. Legends Never Die - 422 million
12. SOS - 404 million
13. Eternal Atake - 400 million
14. Scorpion (2nd week) - 390 million
15. More Life - 384 million
16. 1989 (Taylor's Version) - 375 million
17. Hollywood's Bleeding - 365 million
18. Donda - 357 million
19. Un Verano Sin Ti - 356 million
20. Astroworld - 349 million
Those numbers you cited are not sourced, and if they are accurate, it makes your point look even worse about Views being bigger globally. S*** only sold 1M outside the US
If I posted them you'd call it spreadsheets. If I don't them I'm not citing my sources. I can't win when you got goalposts set up every which way and already started the thread off bias af. We could've been celebrating this milestone for Abel and you went with the mindset of battling Drake stans like Zack and Divine on page 1 because you got something to prove
You claim the global numbers for Starboy are bigger than Views but when we look at every country on Earth with certifications it comes in at under 3 million less than Views
You forgot that the Weeknd albums you mentioned were pre-streaming era. First week sales are very different now
You said “all of his major albums used bundles”
That is categorically untrue since he’s only even used bundles one time
i think u are right in the sense that drake will prob sell around ~400k again maybe slightly less
but the difference in sales will always come down to physicals, which drake does not release
for example, weeknd is no where on the top 20 biggest album debut weeks for streaming, becuase a lot of his sales come from physicals which allows him to still have massive first weeks similar to trav
not saying 1 is better than the other, just giving a breakdown on the differences
https://ktt2.com/biggest-streaming-weeks-on-the-billboard-200-76952
1. The Tortured Poets Department - 891 million
2. Scorpion - 745 million
3. Certified Lover Boy - 743 million
4. Midnights - 549 million
5. For All the Dogs - 514 million
6. Her Loss - 513 million
7. One Thing at a Time - 498 million
8. Tha Carter V - 433 million
9. Beerbongs & Bentleys - 431 million
10. The Tortured Poets Department (2nd week) - 428 million
11. Legends Never Die - 422 million
12. SOS - 404 million
13. Eternal Atake - 400 million
14. Scorpion (2nd week) - 390 million
15. More Life - 384 million
16. 1989 (Taylor's Version) - 375 million
17. Hollywood's Bleeding - 365 million
18. Donda - 357 million
19. Un Verano Sin Ti - 356 million
20. Astroworld - 349 million
You see it
This exactly why I think Hurry Up Tomorrow will outsell Drake’s next project.
We in a time where pure sales are back on the rise. Drake does absolutely zero of those
I like Views a lot but Starboy is about on the same level, used to play these two so much in 2016, personal classics
If I posted them you'd call it spreadsheets. If I don't them I'm not citing my sources. I can't win when you got goalposts set up every which way and already started the thread off bias af. We could've been celebrating this milestone for Abel and you went with the mindset of battling Drake stans like Zack and Divine on page 1 because you got something to prove
You claim the global numbers for Starboy are bigger than Views but when we look at every country on Earth with certifications it comes in at under 3 million less than Views
Are you dense?
You conceded that 8M of Views’s supposed 9M sales comes from the US alone.
That means the album only did 1M in the rest of the world
Also you won’t post a source because you have no source. I know the exact site you’re using and it’s not verifiable whatsoever
Outside of the US, Drake is just not as big as The Weeknd, and he hasn’t been for quite some years now.
Is drake even in competition with the weeknd anymore at this point?
Of course not
Nothing Without You, Starboy, Reminder, Secrets, Six Feet Under, Attention (a few other great tracks) all on the same album
Fantastic album, well deserved
Attention is severely underrated fr
Post your top 5 from the album
Die for You
Starboy
True Colors
I Feel It Coming
Nothing Without You
classic
You said “all of his major albums used bundles”
That is categorically untrue since he’s only even used bundles one time
You are right, probably mixed it up with bundling singles. But my main point still stand: nothing suggests Weeknd would outsell Drake if they dropped albums on the same day
Outside of the US, Drake is just not as big as The Weeknd, and he hasn’t been for quite some years now.
feel like this is a given. pop music has more of an appeal than hip hop
You are right, probably mixed it up with bundling singles. But my main point still stand: nothing suggests Weeknd would outsell Drake if they dropped albums on the same day
depending on promotion, Drake would prolly have the first week but longevity wise, Weeknd would outsell