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  • Sep 16, 2024
    Whatcouldgowrong

    Is drake even in competition with the weeknd anymore at this point?

    Is drake even in competition?

  • Sep 16, 2024
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    TheFader

    Drake’s next project is not clearing 400K. His ceiling for his next one is 325K.

    His studio albums have slowly but consistently trended downward in first week sales with every album since Views:

    Views: 1 million
    Scorpion: 732K
    CLB: 603K
    Honestly, Nevermind: 204K (dance album)
    For All the Dogs: 402K

    His next one should sell somewhere between 300K and 325K first week.

    And that’s not true about Weeknd. The only album of his that benefitted from bundles was After Hours.

    BBTM did 412K and Starboy did 366K both without bundles, and MDM did 169K as well.

    i think u are right in the sense that drake will prob sell around ~400k again maybe slightly less

    but the difference in sales will always come down to physicals, which drake does not release

    for example, weeknd is no where on the top 20 biggest album debut weeks for streaming, becuase a lot of his sales come from physicals which allows him to still have massive first weeks similar to trav

    not saying 1 is better than the other, just giving a breakdown on the differences

    ktt2.com/biggest-streaming-weeks-on-the-billboard-200-76952

    1. The Tortured Poets Department - 891 million
    2. Scorpion - 745 million
    3. Certified Lover Boy - 743 million
    4. Midnights - 549 million
    5. For All the Dogs - 514 million
    6. Her Loss - 513 million
    7. One Thing at a Time - 498 million
    8. Tha Carter V - 433 million
    9. Beerbongs & Bentleys - 431 million
    10. The Tortured Poets Department (2nd week) - 428 million
    11. Legends Never Die - 422 million
    12. SOS - 404 million
    13. Eternal Atake - 400 million
    14. Scorpion (2nd week) - 390 million
    15. More Life - 384 million
    16. 1989 (Taylor's Version) - 375 million
    17. Hollywood's Bleeding - 365 million
    18. Donda - 357 million
    19. Un Verano Sin Ti - 356 million
    20. Astroworld - 349 million

  • Sep 16, 2024
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    TheFader

    Those numbers you cited are not sourced, and if they are accurate, it makes your point look even worse about Views being bigger globally. S*** only sold 1M outside the US

    If I posted them you'd call it spreadsheets. If I don't them I'm not citing my sources. I can't win when you got goalposts set up every which way and already started the thread off bias af. We could've been celebrating this milestone for Abel and you went with the mindset of battling Drake stans like Zack and Divine on page 1 because you got something to prove

    You claim the global numbers for Starboy are bigger than Views but when we look at every country on Earth with certifications it comes in at under 3 million less than Views

  • Sep 16, 2024

    His best album

  • Sep 16, 2024
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    Zack From The Six

    You forgot that the Weeknd albums you mentioned were pre-streaming era. First week sales are very different now

    You said “all of his major albums used bundles”

    That is categorically untrue since he’s only even used bundles one time

  • Sep 16, 2024
    ElementalDeezed

    i think u are right in the sense that drake will prob sell around ~400k again maybe slightly less

    but the difference in sales will always come down to physicals, which drake does not release

    for example, weeknd is no where on the top 20 biggest album debut weeks for streaming, becuase a lot of his sales come from physicals which allows him to still have massive first weeks similar to trav

    not saying 1 is better than the other, just giving a breakdown on the differences

    https://ktt2.com/biggest-streaming-weeks-on-the-billboard-200-76952

    1. The Tortured Poets Department - 891 million
    2. Scorpion - 745 million
    3. Certified Lover Boy - 743 million
    4. Midnights - 549 million
    5. For All the Dogs - 514 million
    6. Her Loss - 513 million
    7. One Thing at a Time - 498 million
    8. Tha Carter V - 433 million
    9. Beerbongs & Bentleys - 431 million
    10. The Tortured Poets Department (2nd week) - 428 million
    11. Legends Never Die - 422 million
    12. SOS - 404 million
    13. Eternal Atake - 400 million
    14. Scorpion (2nd week) - 390 million
    15. More Life - 384 million
    16. 1989 (Taylor's Version) - 375 million
    17. Hollywood's Bleeding - 365 million
    18. Donda - 357 million
    19. Un Verano Sin Ti - 356 million
    20. Astroworld - 349 million

    You see it

    This exactly why I think Hurry Up Tomorrow will outsell Drake’s next project.

    We in a time where pure sales are back on the rise. Drake does absolutely zero of those

  • Sep 16, 2024

    I like Views a lot but Starboy is about on the same level, used to play these two so much in 2016, personal classics

  • Sep 16, 2024

    OVOXO

  • Sep 16, 2024
    The Darkest Angel

    If I posted them you'd call it spreadsheets. If I don't them I'm not citing my sources. I can't win when you got goalposts set up every which way and already started the thread off bias af. We could've been celebrating this milestone for Abel and you went with the mindset of battling Drake stans like Zack and Divine on page 1 because you got something to prove

    You claim the global numbers for Starboy are bigger than Views but when we look at every country on Earth with certifications it comes in at under 3 million less than Views

    Are you dense?

    You conceded that 8M of Views’s supposed 9M sales comes from the US alone.

    That means the album only did 1M in the rest of the world

    Also you won’t post a source because you have no source. I know the exact site you’re using and it’s not verifiable whatsoever

  • Sep 16, 2024
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    Outside of the US, Drake is just not as big as The Weeknd, and he hasn’t been for quite some years now.

  • Sep 16, 2024
    Whatcouldgowrong

    Is drake even in competition with the weeknd anymore at this point?

    Of course not

  • Sep 16, 2024

    Not surprised that some braindead Drake stans are already itt

  • New NIGHTMAN

    his worst album and still a classic

    second worst**

  • Zack From The Six

    Nothing Without You, Starboy, Reminder, Secrets, Six Feet Under, Attention (a few other great tracks) all on the same album
    Fantastic album, well deserved

    Attention is severely underrated fr

  • Sep 16, 2024

    Post your top 5 from the album

    Die for You
    Starboy
    True Colors
    I Feel It Coming
    Nothing Without You

  • Sep 16, 2024
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    Secrets is the best song on this album

  • Sep 16, 2024
    HURRY UP K DOG

    Secrets is the best song on this album

    YOU SEE IT!!!

  • SWAN 💜
    Sep 16, 2024

    classic

  • Sep 16, 2024
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    TheFader

    You said “all of his major albums used bundles”

    That is categorically untrue since he’s only even used bundles one time

    You are right, probably mixed it up with bundling singles. But my main point still stand: nothing suggests Weeknd would outsell Drake if they dropped albums on the same day

  • Sep 16, 2024

    Starboy haters lost I’m afraid

  • Sep 16, 2024
    TheFader

    Outside of the US, Drake is just not as big as The Weeknd, and he hasn’t been for quite some years now.

    feel like this is a given. pop music has more of an appeal than hip hop

  • Sep 16, 2024
    Zack From The Six

    You are right, probably mixed it up with bundling singles. But my main point still stand: nothing suggests Weeknd would outsell Drake if they dropped albums on the same day

    depending on promotion, Drake would prolly have the first week but longevity wise, Weeknd would outsell

  • Sep 16, 2024

    Iconic album

  • Sep 16, 2024
    MarcoPreme

    Daft Punk only gon work with certain artists and Abel is one of them ones

    It felt like a passing of the baton in a lot of ways