OHMNI

6mo

The cost of production of Horizon vs Sales is closer than you think

Nayuta

6mo

I mean we already know what it cost from the ftc docs and insomniac leaks

it was 212 million to develop. 300 million when you add in employee cost.

game had sold 8.4 million at that point, so for discussion sake then multiply that by full price and you're looking at 504 million

so adding nuance of sales and what not, still should be about 100 to 200 million in profit according to the data from april 2023. obviously number would've continued to grow at the current date

either way they've certainly made a profit

Nayuta

6mo

I mean we already know what it cost from the ftc docs and insomniac leaks

it was 212 million to develop. 300 million when you add in employee cost.

game had sold 8.4 million at that point, so for discussion sake then multiply that by full price and you're looking at 504 million

so adding nuance of sales and what not, still should be about 100 to 200 million in profit according to the data from april 2023. obviously number would've continued to grow at the current date

either way they've certainly made a profit

bigmancam

6mo

is that including marketing too?

OHMNI

6mo

okay now remove all the sales from bundles.

Nayuta

6mo

to my knowledge i don't think marketing is included in as dev cost, dev cost is just what is costs to make the product you're going to sell. marketing budget is handled by marketing team/research, so that wasn't in the legal docs

bigmancam

6mo

I wonder what the marketing budgets for AAA games are these days. gotta be approaching 100% of the game cost like some movies.

no idea what they did in this case though. I could see the performance not being as great as you might think given those figures if they spent a lot on marketing

OHMNI

6mo

Stacked year

OHMNI

6mo

Stacked year

PALESTINE DATTEN

6mo

Perfect time to get ur ps5 pro

OHMNI

6mo

lol not worth getting til Fall 2025. I go out during the summer not a summer gamer.

Spring I dont care and by fall it will go down in price and demand

also again I have a pc

leals core rise

6mo

Wait they made more Metroid Primes after the first one lol

PALESTINE DATTEN

6mo

I was being sarcastic

OHMNI

6mo

I dont do sarcasm I am autistic

also most sarcasm is just "look I just lied"

PALESTINE DATTEN

6mo

@Kr0niic

OHMNI

6mo

Stacked year

Mark Moschino

6mo

damn i cant keep doing this year on year off of games thing lol.

2023 almost broke me for how much s*** i wanted to play and couldn't

Nayuta

6mo

I mean we already know what it cost from the ftc docs and insomniac leaks

it was 212 million to develop. 300 million when you add in employee cost.

game had sold 8.4 million at that point, so for discussion sake then multiply that by full price and you're looking at 504 million

so adding nuance of sales and what not, still should be about 100 to 200 million in profit according to the data from april 2023. obviously number would've continued to grow at the current date

either way they've certainly made a profit

Nayuta

6mo

to my knowledge i don't think marketing is included in as dev cost, dev cost is just what is costs to make the product you're going to sell. marketing budget is handled by marketing team/research, so that wasn't in the legal docs

Mark Moschino

6mo

nah you're forgetting marketing. A good general rule for this stuff is to multiply the reported budget by 2.5 and then compare revenue

OHMNI

6mo

It will always be year on year off to fluctuate which is actually a good move allows people to catch up and save money

OHMNI

6mo

he is forgetting a lot but just letting him cook because otherwise they will say I am a know it all

They think just because some numbers leak that its accurate to the entire process

Mark Moschino

6mo

nah you're forgetting marketing. A good general rule for this stuff is to multiply the reported budget by 2.5 and then compare revenue

Nayuta

6mo

if that's the rule of thumb i don't see how any of these games are making a profit with these budget sizes