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  • Sep 25, 2024
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    they are trying to force horizon because they want to get to movie, tv show, merch and cultural phenomenon

    It wont stop til it clicks for people

    lego is to sell a series that they couldn't otherwise to kids. Astrobot is cute but its also a long form ad for kids they pray will eventually grow up and be like "let me buy the horizon remaster" "dad can I have last of us part 1 remake or get plus premium so I get it for free"

    Its all very clear marketing. Especially when you remove the disc drive

    "shit I got no disc might as well get plus premium"

    then how much do you have them paying a month with no full ownership of their game?

    Often to barely play online at all which used to be the primary reason we would pay for online at all.

    They flipped the game pass model to their benefit.

    oh s*** I got it on plus but I got to buy the dlc well I saved money on the base game so I will buy the dlc

    often of a game you wouldn't play at all

  • Sep 25, 2024
    Nayuta

    if that's the rule of thumb i don't see how any of these games are making a profit with these budget sizes

    rdr2 made what a billion something first month?

  • Sep 25, 2024
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    OHMNI

    they are trying to force horizon because they want to get to movie, tv show, merch and cultural phenomenon

    It wont stop til it clicks for people

    lego is to sell a series that they couldn't otherwise to kids. Astrobot is cute but its also a long form ad for kids they pray will eventually grow up and be like "let me buy the horizon remaster" "dad can I have last of us part 1 remake or get plus premium so I get it for free"

    Its all very clear marketing. Especially when you remove the disc drive

    "shit I got no disc might as well get plus premium"

    then how much do you have them paying a month with no full ownership of their game?

    Often to barely play online at all which used to be the primary reason we would pay for online at all.

    They flipped the game pass model to their benefit.

    oh s*** I got it on plus but I got to buy the dlc well I saved money on the base game so I will buy the dlc

    often of a game you wouldn't play at all

    ps plus is kind of genius in this way. Hook them deep with the library and then let some stickler game that they want to play keep them subscribed for another month.

  • Sep 25, 2024
    Nayuta

    if that's the rule of thumb i don't see how any of these games are making a profit with these budget sizes

    omg they are catching on to why these companies are having layoffs

    maybe you are smart

  • Sep 25, 2024

    i have a friend who f***ing loves horizon, but yeah i don't get it i think it's the most trash execution of a pretty interesting ip ive seen in a minute

  • Sep 25, 2024
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    by your logic why did Naughty Dog have layoffs after multiple highly successful games?

    eurogamer.net/sony-layoffs-reportedly-impact-10-of-horizon-forbidden-west-developer

    @MyNight

    you slowly understanding after saying I am anti developer

    dont worry you will get it

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  • Sep 25, 2024
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    Mark Moschino

    ps plus is kind of genius in this way. Hook them deep with the library and then let some stickler game that they want to play keep them subscribed for another month.

    I mean they just copied gamepass and gave people infinitely less for relatively the same price. The smartest thing Sony did marketing wise was make it uncool to own an Xbox. Performance wise Xbox Series X is often better than PS5 in many ways. But with Xbox Series S holding it back often which is a cert requirement sometimes this is paid timed exclusivity but they sign NDAs so they can leak blaming the series S rather than the actual deal of timed exclusivity

    timed exclusives like call of duty and destiny s*** is part of how we got here . Smart but dastardly move by Sony. Which I hope Xbox makes it out of this generation because Sony needs competition closer in their lane than Nintendo otherwise they can continue to s*** on their fans chest and they eat it up as we have seen both in this thread and Pro thread.

  • Sep 25, 2024

    If Horizon is doing so great why layoffs ?

  • Sep 25, 2024
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    OHMNI

    I mean they just copied gamepass and gave people infinitely less for relatively the same price. The smartest thing Sony did marketing wise was make it uncool to own an Xbox. Performance wise Xbox Series X is often better than PS5 in many ways. But with Xbox Series S holding it back often which is a cert requirement sometimes this is paid timed exclusivity but they sign NDAs so they can leak blaming the series S rather than the actual deal of timed exclusivity

    timed exclusives like call of duty and destiny s*** is part of how we got here . Smart but dastardly move by Sony. Which I hope Xbox makes it out of this generation because Sony needs competition closer in their lane than Nintendo otherwise they can continue to s*** on their fans chest and they eat it up as we have seen both in this thread and Pro thread.

    this is anecdotal, but my series s runs like s*** 3 years after i bought it

    Edit: I missread series x better than ps5 as series s better than ps5 sorry about that

  • Sep 25, 2024
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    Mark Moschino

    this is anecdotal, but my series s runs like s*** 3 years after i bought it

    Edit: I missread series x better than ps5 as series s better than ps5 sorry about that

    Series S should have been a little more powerful but sold like crack in Japan. Performance wise definitely get more issues and frame rate/ dynamic resolution issues but 150$ for some gamers to get their foot in the door who value just being able to play at all that is major.

    How it will fare later and later in the generation who knows. i thought they would go the require internet for machine learning to upscale route cause they have been hyping up their machine learning for the past 5 years

  • Sep 25, 2024
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    OHMNI

    I mean they just copied gamepass and gave people infinitely less for relatively the same price. The smartest thing Sony did marketing wise was make it uncool to own an Xbox. Performance wise Xbox Series X is often better than PS5 in many ways. But with Xbox Series S holding it back often which is a cert requirement sometimes this is paid timed exclusivity but they sign NDAs so they can leak blaming the series S rather than the actual deal of timed exclusivity

    timed exclusives like call of duty and destiny s*** is part of how we got here . Smart but dastardly move by Sony. Which I hope Xbox makes it out of this generation because Sony needs competition closer in their lane than Nintendo otherwise they can continue to s*** on their fans chest and they eat it up as we have seen both in this thread and Pro thread.

    the problem too is that xbox is kind of digging its own grave right? they have no strong brand identity really. Which gives them nothing to market.

    I want my series x for christmas? My X boX series X? what is that?

    and their plan of acquisition has hilariously backfired since every major release from them runs both and oftentimes better on a ps5

  • Sep 25, 2024
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    Mark Moschino

    the problem too is that xbox is kind of digging its own grave right? they have no strong brand identity really. Which gives them nothing to market.

    I want my series x for christmas? My X boX series X? what is that?

    and their plan of acquisition has hilariously backfired since every major release from them runs both and oftentimes better on a ps5

    Call of Duty is still a huge chunk of money on the DLC, marketing and best place to play side.

    If that doesnt go through than you see Sony pushing less live service bullshit because their dlc and exclusive deal with Call of Duty was crazy

    Sony themselves tried to buy activitision...

  • Sep 25, 2024
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    Mark Moschino

    the problem too is that xbox is kind of digging its own grave right? they have no strong brand identity really. Which gives them nothing to market.

    I want my series x for christmas? My X boX series X? what is that?

    and their plan of acquisition has hilariously backfired since every major release from them runs both and oftentimes better on a ps5

    They have Halo and uhh...

    Forza

  • Sep 25, 2024
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    OHMNI

    Series S should have been a little more powerful but sold like crack in Japan. Performance wise definitely get more issues and frame rate/ dynamic resolution issues but 150$ for some gamers to get their foot in the door who value just being able to play at all that is major.

    How it will fare later and later in the generation who knows. i thought they would go the require internet for machine learning to upscale route cause they have been hyping up their machine learning for the past 5 years

    yeah i went through the same process. I bought my s cause it was this cheap ssd using system that could stop gap in between my ps4 and ps5.

    That being said tho theres something wrong with the quality control because my machine runs very very poorly to the point that i find it kind of taxxing to even turn on

    also idk if you know about this but the clearing mac address s*** to get the internet to run is insanely annoying

  • Sep 25, 2024
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    leals core rise

    They have Halo and uhh...

    Forza

    Halo Anniversary they going to try again. I am ready for Gears of War but without original team and soul that will be tough

  • Sep 25, 2024
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    OHMNI

    Halo Anniversary they going to try again. I am ready for Gears of War but without original team and soul that will be tough

    does xbox even know they have gears of war anymore? they certainly don't seem interested in it

  • Sep 25, 2024
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    Mark Moschino

    yeah i went through the same process. I bought my s cause it was this cheap ssd using system that could stop gap in between my ps4 and ps5.

    That being said tho theres something wrong with the quality control because my machine runs very very poorly to the point that i find it kind of taxxing to even turn on

    also idk if you know about this but the clearing mac address s*** to get the internet to run is insanely annoying

    yeah that is something with your series s lol I have friends with one and play on one for work its not x or ps5 but shouldnt have that level of issues

  • OHMNI

    Halo Anniversary they going to try again. I am ready for Gears of War but without original team and soul that will be tough

    bought the original Xbox solely for Halo and KOTOR what a time

  • Sep 25, 2024
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    Mark Moschino

    does xbox even know they have gears of war anymore? they certainly don't seem interested in it

    Gears of War E Day ( 2025 we pray)

    They should have had coalition turn that Matrix tech demo to a full game

  • Sep 25, 2024
    OHMNI

    yeah that is something with your series s lol I have friends with one and play on one for work its not x or ps5 but shouldnt have that level of issues

    the mac address thing is linewide for the S apparently which is ridiculous

  • Sep 25, 2024
    OHMNI

    Gears of War E Day ( 2025 we pray)

    They should have had coalition turn that Matrix tech demo to a full game

    i regret deleting that s*** super heavy honestly.

    i wish they'd just make a good matrix game (not a tech demo, and not an emu of enter the matrix or path of neo)

  • Sep 25, 2024
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    OHMNI

    they are trying to force horizon because they want to get to movie, tv show, merch and cultural phenomenon

    It wont stop til it clicks for people

    lego is to sell a series that they couldn't otherwise to kids. Astrobot is cute but its also a long form ad for kids they pray will eventually grow up and be like "let me buy the horizon remaster" "dad can I have last of us part 1 remake or get plus premium so I get it for free"

    Its all very clear marketing. Especially when you remove the disc drive

    "shit I got no disc might as well get plus premium"

    then how much do you have them paying a month with no full ownership of their game?

    Often to barely play online at all which used to be the primary reason we would pay for online at all.

    They flipped the game pass model to their benefit.

    oh s*** I got it on plus but I got to buy the dlc well I saved money on the base game so I will buy the dlc

    often of a game you wouldn't play at all

    Horizon is a hit game franchise no matter how hard yall try to make it seem not so lol.

  • BnBallinToo

    Horizon is a hit game franchise no matter how hard yall try to make it seem not so lol.

    Yeah they've sold 30+ million of those things so it's undeniably a success, but I don't think it's permeated the way they wanted to. Like they push that s*** HARD and the general opinion still seems to be "it's alright"

    A Horizon movie does have a lot of potential though if they don't f*** it up. I mean it's robo dinosaurs.

  • Sep 25, 2024
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    BnBallinToo

    Horizon is a hit game franchise no matter how hard yall try to make it seem not so lol.

    I am glad you read that paragraph and failed to grasp how expensive hiring famous actors for mocap is

    if its so successful why the layoffs ?

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