This is the GOAT philosophy tbh, this s*** is for everyone no matter gender, race, religion or class. Everyone can learn something from stoicism.

Nah the real “brutal” truth is that sometimes you’re gonna have moments of fear, moments of laziness, moments of doubt, anxiety, whatever that you can’t do f*** all about. Trying to control those moments into something more productive (in the eyes of society) is gonna make you have a heart attack at age 40

As a stoic you just kinda expect these moments to happen and realise you can’t do s*** about them and just move on. Accept your emotions just don’t linger on them too much.

cope harder

That sounds a lot more reasonable than other dude saying to try to transform everything into something positive

How old are you?

Big bump.

Smoofer lost in the leftist sauce. Stoic philisophy is about feeling your emotions, recognizing how they make you feel, and moving forward in a logical way to continue on your personal path towards greatness.

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Does it help with p*** addiction?

yea it really has nothing to do with “repressing” emotion lol

some people just hear the term “logic” and immediately categorize whatever is being discussed as some right-wing ben shapiro rhetoric

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Yes. In "western" civilization stoicism was (and still is) most likely the closest sibling to eastern schools of thought and philosophies found in Hinduism/Taoism etc.

I think a nuanced, modern approach to stoicism can help an individual lead a healthy lifestyle. Key-word is nuanced. I would be wary to take anything as Dogma, even an ideology as "virtuous" as stoicism.

Oh hey a stoicism thread.

Fellow stoic here been studying for the past two years, changed my life.

P*** a hard one to break. For me it came down to changing my identity rather than my process or outcome. There are three layers of behavior change. The first is your outcomes, which is concerned with changing your results: losing weight, publishing a book, winning a championship.

The second is changing your process. It deals with changing habits and systems: implementing a new routine at the gym, decluttering your desk for better workflow, developing a meditation practice.

The third and deepest layer is changing your identity. Concerned with changing your beliefs: your worldview, your self-image, your judgments about yourself or others.

So imagine two people resisting a cigarette. One says "no thanks I'm trying to quit" and the other says "no thanks I'm not a smoker". This is a small but powerful difference.

For the last month I've been thinking about why it was so easy for me to go vegan at the flip of a switch and never go back, but so difficult for me to quit masturbating to p***. When I learned how unethical the factory farm industry was and how damaging it is to the environment it was a no brainer. I was suddenly a vegan and it meant a great deal to me. So why then was/am I struggling so hard to quit p*** when I know that the industry is just as unethical?

It's because I hadn't yet changed my identity, and I'm still in that process. But I've been telling myself that I am not a person who watches p*** for the past week and it's really been helping. I also have systems in place for when I feel the urge and I have unsaved/unsubscribed from dozens of subreddits.

Epictitus, a born slave with that mentality speaks volumes. He's a bit dark, pulls no punches, and has a sense of humour, my favorite stoic.

Seneca walked the earth the same time as Jesus and they both shared the same messages. His death really strikes me as a true stoic.

Marcus Aurelius was a whole emperor of Rome who's battle tactics/Wars we're all defensive. He dealt with a lot of s*** from his wife supposedly cheating on him to problems with a relationship with his son and at the same time trying to lead a nation and ultimately dying from a plague.

this lecture is worth watching in its entirety if you want a solid introduction to The Meditations/Marcus Aurelius as well as stoicism in general.

Simply put it can, yes.

That's if you believe you have an addiction and want to fix something.

Stoicism also teaches moderation, you can compare a p*** addiction to a video game addiction. As someone who participates in both daily I can't also moderate these actions to where as it does not disrupt whatever I need to be focused on.

I can apply this to so many other "addictions" as well.

You are only harmed if you truly believe you are.

meditations by marcus aurelius is a good starting point and honestly a book everyone should have read at least once in their lifetime

The Discourses/Fragments/Enchiridion from Epictetus are excellent. I try and ready the Enchiridion every month as a reminder.

This I can understand. That other guy was def talking about repressing his emotions tho

Marcus Aurelius said all that s*** cause he’s an emperor. It’s all fun and game until you apply it to disadvantaged people. Imagine telling a poor person that their poverty is outside of their control and that they could nothing to change it, except going with the flow.

F*** the stoics. It’s all about Diogenes and Epicurus

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Epictetus, a seminal figure in stoic philosophy, was literally a slave.

Did you just practice ataraxia when you posted this?