A study published Thursday reported a steep decline in vaccine effectiveness against infection by August of this year, especially for people who received the J&J vaccine.
The researchers found that among more than 600,000 veterans, J&J's vaccine's protection fell from 88% in March to 3% in August. Meanwhile, Moderna's vaccine protection against infection fell to 64% from 92%, and Pfizer's declined to 50% from 91% during that same time period.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/16/health/us-coronavirus-saturday/index.html
infection =/= hospitalization. the vaccines are designed to prevent major symptoms, not stop infection
Because he's not doing what he's told.
That's pretty much it lmao. Regardless of rhyme or reason he has to listen to his bosses
And that’s exactly why it’s a stupid situation
people itt forgot about yearly flu shots
Do they also forget the effectiveness of those yearly shots
The pandemic(plandemic) in a nutshell
this the most difficult nutshell i ever seen
The "effectiveness" of a unproven "vaccine" is wearing off so now you'll need to continually be inoculated for a virus that only seems to be of a concern to politicians.
So the vaccine was giving to people under the impression that 1 or 2 jabs and that'd be it but they(being the scientist, experts referenced by liberal media) were wrong about that huh 🤔. So, when they say they're are absolutely positively no side effects, I wonder if they say that under the same Brazen they misinterpreted the vaccines effectiveness with.
Well said except it was already expected there would be a need for boosters before the vaccines were rolled out to the public
infection =/= hospitalization. the vaccines are designed to prevent major symptoms, not stop infection
And the rules are set by organizations and the government under the misguided idea that vaccines are preventative. None of these rules in major organizations make sense if you factor in what the vaccines are designed to do. Slightly lower spread and curb symptoms. Not prevent
And the rules are set by organizations and the government under the misguided idea that vaccines are preventative. None of these rules in major organizations make sense if you factor in what the vaccines are designed to do. Slightly lower spread and curb symptoms. Not prevent
they are preventative. but for systems clogging up, not for the individual. if you could beat it at home instead of at a hospital aint no goverment in the world paying for vaccines
regardless of whether or not they're technically effective or not at preventing spread, we've seen rates of hospitalization and death plummet since the vaccines were widely implemented.
At the hospital I work at 95%+ of the hospitalized individuals are people with comorbid conditions who elected to not get vaccinated. Meanwhile, they expect to be treated with remdesivir (an equally new and experimental antiviral)
It's a personal choice of course, but the risk assessment is fairly obvious in my personal opinion.
Lack of effectiveness at preventing spread/infection is easily explained by the delta variant's emergence from (the almost entirely unvaccinated) India.
The outcomes we care about and should have been looking for this whole time are hospitalizations/deaths so as to minimize mortality and the burden on health care providers/ the health care system, and the vaccine rollout has been very clearly correlated with the decrease in those numbers among the vaccinated. We will inevitably have to live with COVID-19's existence, counting cases and this study's operational definition of "effectiveness" should not be the main focus.
The pandemic(plandemic) in a nutshell
Nigga what nuts you eating?
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they are preventative. but for systems clogging up, not for the individual. if you could beat it at home instead of at a hospital aint no goverment in the world paying for vaccines
people dont realize this s*** would be over if so many anti vax ppl werent getting themselves hospitalized
Nigga what nuts you eating?
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In hegelian dialect, theirs typically a thesis made, delcared or pushed under false pretenses. Example: "covid19 is the most deadly virus in history."
Then you see the 2 bubbles for the anti-thesis, in hegelian dialectic, since your declaring a problem exist that in actuality is non-existent or is overstated, you must substantiate your original thesis in plain view while offering the solution to your thesis to begin with.
How this plays out for us? 1st, the media says "covid19 is the most deadly virus in history"(thesis). Observable public skeptical. Media/Gov now bear the responsibility to offer us(the public) a solution to "the most deadly virus in history". The ANTITHESIS IS THE VACCINE! Media pushes vaccine.
Theirs 2 bubbles for the anti-thesis because they also have to substantiate for the original thesis. If the vaccines worked as advertised, I don't think we'd be calling this a pandemic. But what if the vaccines low effectiveness time and reported side effects were all pre-planned ahead of time, wouldn't that fall in line with what I said above about them needing to substantiate their thesis(covid19) while simultaneously offering the public the solution(vaxx). The substantiation is hidden behind the solution.
Just my opinion
Its the fact that we don't have a choice and literally have to keep making Pfizer richer in order to live normal lives
There’s a whole industry that’s making serious bank off all this it’s crazy
In hegelian dialect, theirs typically a thesis made, delcared or pushed under false pretenses. Example: "covid19 is the most deadly virus in history."
Then you see the 2 bubbles for the anti-thesis, in hegelian dialectic, since your declaring a problem exist that in actuality is non-existent or is overstated, you must substantiate your original thesis in plain view while offering the solution to your thesis to begin with.
How this plays out for us? 1st, the media says "covid19 is the most deadly virus in history"(thesis). Observable public skeptical. Media/Gov now bear the responsibility to offer us(the public) a solution to "the most deadly virus in history". The ANTITHESIS IS THE VACCINE! Media pushes vaccine.
Theirs 2 bubbles for the anti-thesis because they also have to substantiate for the original thesis. If the vaccines worked as advertised, I don't think we'd be calling this a pandemic. But what if the vaccines low effectiveness time and reported side effects were all pre-planned ahead of time, wouldn't that fall in line with what I said above about them needing to substantiate their thesis(covid19) while simultaneously offering the public the solution(vaxx). The substantiation is hidden behind the solution.
Just my opinion
need to digest this but thanks for sharing some actual high level thinking on KTT2, for real
need to digest this but thanks for sharing some actual high level thinking on KTT2, for real
There is nothing to digest, this is not high level thinking it’s stupid and he just posted a popular google images search result. First he says the media made a thesis but then he says the government is responsible to address that thesis…but they didn’t make it? Makes no f***ing sense, don’t entertain this bullshit.
There is nothing to digest, this is not high level thinking it’s stupid and he just posted a popular google images search result. First he says the media made a thesis but then he says the government is responsible to address that thesis…but they didn’t make it? Makes no f***ing sense, don’t entertain this bullshit.
I like that it's generating discussion! 🤗 the bar is very low here brah. Philosophy is cool
I like that it's generating discussion! 🤗 the bar is very low here brah. Philosophy is cool
Yea the bar is low and I am all for discussion but that is a distraction and is not furthering any discussion regarding this subject.
need to digest this but thanks for sharing some actual high level thinking on KTT2, for real
You see it becomes a never ending cycle. New strains, new variants, new "outbreaks", new boosters. The key is knowing the root point, the original people who made the thesis to begin with. Media/politicians/big tech/big pharma.
The synthesis = the solution. Now, who has been making the decisions(offering the solutions) during all of this? Mainstream media/politicians/big tech/big pharma. Do theirs solutions fall in line with the majority of the public? No. If the minority is making decisions for the majority that don't fall in line with the majority(us the general public weather your left right republican democrat liberal conservative black white tan etc) if your decisions don't fall in line with the majority, then 1 must question the motives behind the people offering the solutions to their very own thesis..
But you can't ask real questions about the vax or you get censored. Hmm, vax related to big pharma and censorship done by big tech, we can't ask questions but we have to believe their surface level statements that appear to only be back by "fact checkers"(a rather new and awkward phenomenon since people started to question their agenda).
Whole thing is fishy to say the very least
There is nothing to digest, this is not high level thinking it’s stupid and he just posted a popular google images search result. First he says the media made a thesis but then he says the government is responsible to address that thesis…but they didn’t make it? Makes no f***ing sense, don’t entertain this bullshit.
The mainstream media is owned and controlled by the gov, I think most people can see that, and when talking about specific people such as that fauci dude, I think it's a fair observation to say he works hand in hand with the government far as whatever agenda they have behind this vax. I'm not claiming to be a know it all, just my observations. This whole vax push has just seemed eerie to me since the beginning
The mainstream media is owned and controlled by the gov, I think most people can see that, and when talking about specific people such as that fauci dude, I think it's a fair observation to say he works hand in hand with the government far as whatever agenda they have behind this vax. I'm not claiming to be a know it all, just my observations. This whole vax push has just seemed eerie to me since the beginning
It’s not a fair observation…it’s a fact he is a federal employee. Holy s*** you aren’t actually observing anything, you are just making s*** up in your damn mind. The government hires experts in their field to guide them on policy, they take the advice and make policy based on that. Medicine is not a hard science, it is a constantly changing soft science, there are always new medicines/techniques being developed to help treat issues better. If you understood how medicine worked you would realize there are very few CURES there are mostly TREATMENTS, which manage the diseases and usually you have keep taking them. It has always worked that way.
There is no huge f***ing conspiracy to make Pfizer more money lol, compared to the rest of the market Pfizer is actually down. Trust me crazy stupid illegal bullshit is happening to make money but they aren’t faking a GLOBAL pandemic to make that happen. They have been making money off loopholes behind your back for years, they didn’t need to make up a vaccine to do that lol.
There’s a whole industry that’s making serious bank off all this it’s crazy
Is that not the same industry that’s been making all the money from everyone for decades? Psychiatrists get a kickback from them to “diagnose” people and prescribe poison
Is that not the same industry that’s been making all the money from everyone for decades? Psychiatrists get a kickback from them to “diagnose” people and prescribe poison
That’s true just crazy to me I was talking to someone administering covid vaccines and they get funded from the government for each test they do. So they can test ppl for free then get paid by government
End of the day it’s coming from our taxes but they’re making good money right now in that business